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The Greatest Generation (?)

I'm half way through "The Greatest Generation" by Tom Brokaw. He claims, perhaps rightfully so, that the men and women who went through the Great Depression and WW II were members of the greatest generation America has seen in the past 100 years.

They suffered, they fought, and, if they survived, they rebuilt our nation. They were of all social classes, farm boys to actors and athletes. They were hard workers, loyal to their country, family, and God. And, naturally, those surviving today, are from the "old school"--the school of hard knocks. Conservative, ethical, unforgiving.

Brokaw may well be right about his assessment of this generation, but I think he has over generalized. Today's soldiers aren't much different than they were. The latest Purple Heart recipient is a good example. Like the "old timers", he's reluctant to reflect on his experiences and too modest to brag about accomplishments.

The next generation of "baby boomers" were considered "softer". After Korea, we had 15 years of peace. When the Vietnam conflict happened, we became a divided nation. Those old warriors (and their children) couldn't understand the pacification movement beginning in the late 60s. I mean, the hippies, Woodstock and Altamount, Kent St., peaceniks, McGovern? What's happening to MY America?, they asked.

Here we are, nearly 69 years after Pearl Harbor was attacked. Most of the soldiers have died. My generation remembers, because we've heard the stories directly. I appreciate and am thankful for the sacrifices made by my parent's generation. But I don't think they were any greater than any other so-called generation. (We have a habit of dividing history up into decades and generations, thereby generalizing periods of time.)

There are other "battles" to be fought in this day in age. So much has changed from my parent's time to my children's (and grandchildren). Respect and honor the past. Look to and build for the future.

posted on Nov 29, 2010 6:14 AM ()

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What troubles me most is that the current generation seems to have embraced greed and entitlement over service and generosity. Very sad.
comment by marta on Dec 3, 2010 10:15 AM ()
True, although I don't much like generalizations and categorizations. (Hey, that's a spell check word!)
reply by solitaire on Dec 5, 2010 6:35 AM ()
I was not being sarcastic. The vets of WWIU were mostly born before 1920. Jay was born in 1910 and was a bit older than most. He was a radio officer in the Merchant Marine which was nationalized and became convoy ships. He was on the Mermansk run, torpedoed and sunk and in a lifeboat for 15 days, picked up by the Japanese, put back in the lifeboat. The life that prepare him to survive was one of desperation and poverty in rural Oregon, walking for miles without shoes in the snow to get to the library and not thinking he was being put upon. That was that generation.
comment by tealstar on Nov 30, 2010 6:20 AM ()
Exactly!! Yet, we are led to believe that our armed forces are fighting for "freedom and democracy" throughout the world. Bull crap.
comment by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:30 AM ()
I have to agree with Teal. We were really tough because of what we lived through. PTSD was called shell shock after WWI. I know because my aunt's
husband had it and was treated for it at our local V.A hospital. She got
a job on his ward as psychiatric nurse so she could spend time with him and
see that he recieved proper treatment. I had to stay out of school and
care for my three year old sister. I was eight. We all did what we had to
do.
comment by elderjane on Nov 30, 2010 3:37 AM ()
I've heard these "war stories" many times, especially from my father. How he had to help his brother (a WWII vet), help his parents and sister, etc. Undoubtedly, these were very difficult times under trying circumstances. I'm wondering if perhaps following generations under-appreciate what really went on, me included. We make jokes about "when I was a kid, we had to...". We make light of an age that was nothing like any other time. Shame on us.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:41 AM ()
Apples and oranges. The second world war was huge and the three enemies threatened our nation directly. Vietnam did not, and it turned out to be a colossal waste of our national treasures, just like Iraq and Afghanistan are turning out. Wrong-headed politicians do these things, and this is one major reason I became a nihilist. Politicians NEVER act for the will of the nation, only for their own re-election and the moneyed interests who put them in office.
comment by jondude on Nov 29, 2010 12:44 PM ()
Sorry--my reply is up top beginning with "exactly!".
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:32 AM ()
You are mistaken. They were better because they were raised to be better, to persevere when they had nothing, to not whine and snivel about it. To walk to school barefoot in winter weather, to read by candlelight, to run four miles for the midwife and get back in time. You have no idea.
comment by tealstar on Nov 29, 2010 12:40 PM ()
I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not. In any case, it's not the first time I've been wrong. My father grew up in South Bend IN, in the snow belt. So I have heard stories of "walking 4 miles through the snow", etc.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:26 AM ()
Hmmm...what an interesting post. As usual for you.

I'm not sure that a fair comparison can be made between generations. Everyone's life experiences are dictated by their own perceptions, right? Veterans of WW2 maybe did not "complain" or "moan" but we also did not know that PTSD existed nor did we fully comprehend what the horrors of war could do to a person's mental state.

I have a child who, during the "greatest generation", would have been instutionalized, at *best*. My own life experience will, therefore, alter my perception.

My grandma, who talked a lot about the great depression, would say this:

"Life would be easy if it was black and white. But unfortunately, cookie, it's composed of shades of grey." Then again, she also used to say that she didn't understand what all the fuss was about when people asked her for great depression stories....
comment by juliansmom on Nov 29, 2010 11:39 AM ()
Perceptive analysis, Janet! I asked my father yesterday about what he remembers from the Great Depression. He was too young to recall how dire the times were. But he had a paper route, and both his parents had jobs, so I guess they managed. He did have to work his way through college in the late 30s, but I think that's because his father didn't approve of him getting an education. Just guessing. Thanks for your input.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:22 AM ()
Personally, I think each generation brings its own recipe for greatness to the table and leaves its own unique mark on history. It may not be the same as the generation of World War II but it is no less significant nonetheless.
comment by redimpala on Nov 29, 2010 10:57 AM ()
I can't disagree with you. Different times, different results. Apples to donuts.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:15 AM ()
That is my generation.After serving in the Arm and Navy during the Korea War.Got drafted in this one.Do not recall anyone whining or complaining
I know that this guy did not.Not sure if the Korea vet got treated well when they came out of the service.But I think that they have.
All of the Armed Forces should get treated well.Today the Iraq Vet are sort of and have heard a lot of complains on this in my visit to the VA hospital.
I am sure they will be treated well.You do hear off and on.
Good post and good reading there
comment by fredo on Nov 29, 2010 10:57 AM ()
I think the TV show MASH did more for the understanding of what soldiers go through than anything. More compassion is necessary. Thanks, by the way, for serving our country. I'm a non-soldier, and appreciate your sacrifices.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:13 AM ()
Being part of the 'greatest generation'--that's me--born in 1936--most of what I remember of the veterans of WW2 was that they didn't moan and groan about 'post distress', etc. though it certainly happened--it seems that generation were less whiners than those from Vietnam onward--don't recall Korean vets doing the 'poor little me' thing--I'm not saying the latter vets don't deserve to be vocal but then WW2 vets got better treatment from the government than later vets and today's are sadly treated worse of all
comment by greatmartin on Nov 29, 2010 9:58 AM ()
I am guessing ALL battle-scarred vets have some sort of traumatic experiences. It's just that there is more known and publicized about them. Plus, as you alluded to, WWII soldiers were taught to "suck it up", be tough.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:09 AM ()
I was born 9 years after WW2 so I only have the memories of my elders to think about (plus books and documentaries etc.) to learn from.
Although I like to know about historical periods, both of our last wars do not 'grab' my attention. Haven't a clue, why this is.
The stories I have listened to from the veterans of the last war, were so distressing at times.
comment by augusta on Nov 29, 2010 9:40 AM ()
Me thinks you're a peace lover and wish not to study war. I certainly don't enjoy watching men getting killed on the battlefield or in the air. Peace, sister.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:05 AM ()
Good point!
comment by anacoana on Nov 29, 2010 6:32 AM ()
Well said. I think every generation will be deemed as great after their time has come and gone...
comment by kristilyn3 on Nov 29, 2010 6:31 AM ()
Perhaps. There is always something each generation can be proud of and be remembered for.
reply by solitaire on Nov 30, 2010 5:02 AM ()

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