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Religion > Where is God?
 

Where is God?

Do you believe in God? I used to. I used to really believe in the supreme being and all that entails. I lost my faith. It wasn’t an all of sudden transition. There is one defining moment where I started questioning my faith. It’s very personal and filled with deep heartbreak. It was not the death of my Father, who struggled his whole life with his own demons and chose to drown them in whiskey. He died from complications of leukemia. It was not the sudden deterioration of my Mom, suffering from Alzheimer’s. Watching her change from the vibrant, loving, full of life person into a shell of what she used to be. I don’t visit Mom much, it’s too hard. I love her with every fiber of my being but seeing her this way is like a knife through my heart. It was not the loss of my job, a bad job that I absolutely hated but endured to help pay the bills. That was actually a relief in some ways losing that job, the stress, the horrible hours I worked, never being able to spend time with my hubby or son. I do not blame god for any of those things. They are things that just happen in everyone’s life. My questioning began because of an incident that happened between me and a friend. This is my problem. Christians who proclaim they are saved by the blood of Christ and then partake of evil actions. How can I reconcile my feelings of God if this behavior is acceptable to Him? I gave up on my faith. It was doing me no good whatsoever. There is good and bad in this world and I don’t think there is a god up there sorting out who is who. There have been very bad things that have happened in my life and I do not believe God was punishing me for anything. There have also been very good things and likewise I do not accept that god has anything to do with that. I have come to believe we are just here, not through some cosmic ‘created the world in 7 days’ sort of thing. If a person can profess to be a Christian and live by God’s example, then why do they still do the most evil things? Is it because they know if they repent and ask forgiveness, they will receive it? Well I am sorry but that does not make much sense to me. I used to pray, for friends and family, for people who were going through a rough time, for those battling sickness and disease. I cannot see where one time my prayers helped at all. Perhaps it gave comfort to someone when I said, I will keep you in my prayers.

Then there is the situation in which I was fired from my job. At the hands of another Christian I was put on the chopping block. She lied and threatened and put my boss against the wall, figuratively. Her daughter had been fired and the official reason was attendance. The unofficial reason was theft. My getting fired did not help this woman’s daughter, she did not get her job back. She just wanted someone else to hurt as well. How does she reconcile that with God?

I cannot believe in a God when there are so many hypocrites that on the outside they are good Christians. On the inside they are filled with worms and darkness. I do miss my faith, it is on my mind often. But I just cannot bring myself to welcome god back into my life when I don’t think he exists.

This is my opinion and my opinion only. I do not fault anyone for their belief or faith.

posted on Oct 6, 2011 6:59 AM ()

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I too think you might get some comfort from the Marianne Williamson books. Check your local library. It hurts my heart that you have lost your faith. I attend no church as it is just a building full of liars most times any way. I believe we need to ALL find our hearts again or truly the world IS hell. I do believe too many people are willing to do evil because they are going to be forgiven, but as was stated by another above, if it is in your heart to do it with the intention of being forgiven, you are not getting forgiven. Thems the rules :) I do hope you find your faith again as it is a great comfort in trying times. But if you cant, I will pray for you still. There is love out there, it is just mixed with all the garbage people create. Hang in there
comment by hennaladykim on Jan 9, 2012 8:46 AM ()
I too thing you might get some comfort from Marianne Williamson books. Check your local library. It hurts my heart that you have lost your faith. I attend no church as it is just a building full of liars most times any way. I believe we need to ALL find our hearts again or truly the world IS hell. I do believe too many people are willing to do evil because they are going to be forgiven, but as was stated by another above, if it is in your heart to do it with the intention of being forgiven, you are not getting forgiven. Thems the rules :) I do hope you find your faith again as it is a great comfort in trying times. But if you cant, I will pray for you still. There is love out there, it is just mixed with all the garbage people create. Hang in there
comment by hennaladykim on Jan 9, 2012 8:45 AM ()
My sweetie, don't judge God by man. Man will inevitably fail. Judge man by God. I have every reason to be angry at Him, but He's been my comfort through all the crap my family has endured over the last 3 years. He was my dearest confidant when I lost twins at full term, lost my mother, my dad, went through separation, etc. I've been so much, and I agree with you that there are multiple reasons why I should be angry with Him...but I'm not. He's my rock. He's the one I can talk to when I can't talk to anyone else. Yes, there are people who call themselves "Christians" out there who do not follow what Jesus said is the way. I've met lots of them. I was raised in a denomination that I want nothing to do with now. I do not call myself by any denominational name. The thing I've learned is that people who sit in a church for 20 years are not necessarily Christians. You can sit for 20 years in a garage -- don't make you a car. A person who is a follower of Christ should be compassionate, patient, forgiving, (theres a list in the Bible by the way). Sure we all fail, thats the beauty of being able to ask forgiveness. I love you, Mary. Living God-less? Well, it's soooooo lonely. Just talk to Him. Stop judging Him by the dumb way people act. They are wrong. He never is. Deb
comment by teacherwoman on Oct 23, 2011 11:50 AM ()
thank you Deb! I guess after different things were happening I kept wondering, why me? You get tired of the bad things happening and wonder where is that silver lining in storm cloud. I guess I just need to do some soul searching to see where I am spiritually.
reply by elkhound on Oct 28, 2011 6:30 AM ()
Mary, I suppose that I am an agnostic. I would like to believe in a higher
power but I try to be moral, to help others, to be generous with what I have
and above all to love others and never willfully inflict hurt. Religion
has slaughtered millions with their Holy Wars. Hugs
comment by elderjane on Oct 12, 2011 3:32 PM ()
Man slaughtered in the name of God -- definitely wasn't the right thing to do and I'm sure God was po'd!
reply by teacherwoman on Oct 23, 2011 11:52 AM ()
that is a great philosophy to live by. I think if more people felt that way, this world would have less problems.
reply by elkhound on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 AM ()
Religion and "faith" are not the same thing in my mind.
comment by tracy on Oct 7, 2011 10:52 AM ()
reply by teacherwoman on Oct 23, 2011 11:53 AM ()
I agree with that tracy!
reply by elkhound on Oct 8, 2011 5:27 AM ()
"The Keys Of The Kingdom" is a good read. It is fictional.

Marianne Williamson wrote many books. "A Return To Love" is a good one. She doesn't subscribe to any one faith...just the core belief that love is the only thing that matters.
comment by juliansmom on Oct 6, 2011 11:49 AM ()
God paid a brief visit with us with Randy and Mike.
Sorry,I for one is not a big believer.Why should everyone have to give credit to him.Whatever I done in my life was me and me only.
I worked for it and deserved it.No one to thanks but me.
This is my personal feelings.If you do not have any faith in God so why try to be a phony.Most people out there are.Why!so they do not upset with anyone.I have no problems with them believing it fine.
For me,I have my own.I earned it.
comment by fredo on Oct 6, 2011 10:05 AM ()
Fredo, you expressed perfectly what I was trying to say! Most of my life I was a believer, went to church, prayed, all of that. Perhaps I am at the point in my life where I can hold my head up high and say, these are my accomplishments and these are my failures. I have no one to blame or credit, they are just mine. thank you fredo!
reply by elkhound on Oct 6, 2011 11:16 AM ()
I cant wait for Solitaire to read this.
I believe in a God, I am not sure that any faith is correct though. Read the book "Same kinda different as me" if you want to believe again.
I also am friends with a doctor who said he's had so many strange things and miracles happen and said that there has to be something aside from us at work here. Who knows, ya know? I hope you are doing well.
comment by kristilyn3 on Oct 6, 2011 10:04 AM ()
That's *exactly* what I was thinking!Leave it to Randy to be away...
reply by juliansmom on Oct 6, 2011 11:33 AM ()
I guess I am leaning more towards there is no God. Which is huge for me because I used to be a devout believer. Maybe I am more of an agnostic than an atheist. there could be higher power but I don't think he sits on his throne watching us and hearing our prayers. thanks for your input Kristy!
reply by elkhound on Oct 6, 2011 11:20 AM ()
For what it's worth, Mary, this is my vision of God. He has put us here on this earth and given us free will. We can choose to be good or we can choose to be evil. One thing I do not believe is that we can choose to be evil, ask for forgiveness and continue doing what we were doing before. Unless we make a concerted effort to ask for forgiveness of both our sin and the people hurt by it, we are not going to receive forgiveness. As I used to tell Kenna and Holly when they were growing up and made a stupid mistake. "We've done that now; you see the error of your ways. I don't expect you never to make another mistake; but I do expect youn NOT to make that mistake again." There are certainly those who profess to be good, want perhaps even to be good; but judge those around them. That is wrong; "Justice is mine, sath the Lord." I have been teribly hurt and scarred by good people doing and saying evil things about me. I ask God everyday to allow me to forgive them because if I cannot forgive them, how can I hope to be forgiven when I sin? God does not personally intervene for us; but angels will come down to comfort, intervene on occasion, and guide us. The Bible tells us he does intervene on behalf of nations, however.
comment by redimpala on Oct 6, 2011 8:32 AM ()
thank you for your perspective! all good thoughts! Angels I can believe in. Or perhaps it is just me believing there is something above us all. I just can't wrap my head around the whole thing anymore. I don't blame God for troubles and I don't credit Him for the good things. I just think we are here and you pick the code to live by. I hope that makes sense.
reply by elkhound on Oct 6, 2011 11:23 AM ()
The religious hypocrisy that you describe in the people you have met reflects more of personal human failings than on any one conventional or personal faith tradition. God has many meanings and interpretations. I have a very broad view of spirituality. There are many fulfilling faith and spiritual choices out there. Living with Love is the only global faith tradition that matters in the long run.
comment by marta on Oct 6, 2011 7:45 AM ()
I think we are on the same wavelength here. There are different spiritualties (that's not really a word. lol). Living with love, I get that! I knew I would get some very wise feedback on here about this topic. I have another friend who was a devout christian, switched to Wiccan and now is contemplating Islam. that jumping around from faith to faith seems wrong to me. Perhaps she has not found the one that fits her though. thank you for your insightful words!
reply by elkhound on Oct 6, 2011 11:26 AM ()
A favourite book of mine (that was also a favourite book of my grandma's, whom I loved dearly) called "The Keys Of The Kingdom" by A.J. Cronin said,

"Don't think heaven is in the sky...it's in the hollow of your hand...it's everywhere and anywhere..."

I understand where you are coming from, Mary. I really and truly do. I like to think that there is a piece of God in everyone. I see God in the face of my children. I see God when Julian is gone to his world, blissed out and watching his fingers. I see God in the changing of the leaves at autumn. I see God in the friendships I have. And sometimes, when I look closely enough, I see God in myself.

My mother is fond of quoting Marianne Williamson who says, "if it isn't love, it isn't real."
comment by juliansmom on Oct 6, 2011 7:30 AM ()
you are the only one who can bring me to tears over anything! And I love you for that! I might have to find that book you mentioned. I am just tired of the hypocrites i guess. Out there winning souls for Christ while they do the most horrid of things to their fellow man. If there is a God, I think he weeps when he sees those people.
reply by elkhound on Oct 6, 2011 11:29 AM ()

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