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Education > K through 12 > Teacher Lawsuits
 

Teacher Lawsuits

In "the good old days", a teacher could get away with just about anything when it came to disciplining a student. "The paddle" was used by many, if not most, male teachers. While I rarely swatted a student (maybe 5 in 32 years), I've had female teachers ask me to spank one of theirs.
In recent years, paddling a student has become objectionable, even prohibited in most school districts. I'm in agreement with that policy. (I only used my paddle to belong to the "macho teacher club".) Not even the Principal can touch a student.
Well, last year, the Indiana General Assembly passed the Indiana Teacher Protection Act, which shields teachers from frivolous lawsuits filed over school discipline complaints.
In other words, if a teacher is sued for disciplining a student (paddling?)--and if the teacher's actions were reasonable under the school policy--then the teacher has legal immunity from the lawsuit. The Indiana attorney gerneral's office will step in and provide a legal defense for the teacher, at no cost.
Haven't we come a long way from the days where an unruly student "caught it" from both the teacher and father at home?! I'm not saying either way is better--to paddle or not (although I never liked the idea of beating on a kid). It just seems weird that a law needs passing to protect teachers from lawsuits.
I'll be curious to see if I read about any occurances this year. I'm glad I'm out of teaching.

posted on Aug 15, 2010 6:31 AM ()

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You were a teacher (and me confessing to my early life of' truancy)! . . . sorry teech . . .
comment by febreze on Aug 21, 2010 10:19 AM ()
Confession is good for the soul/sole. You probably didn't miss a thing!
reply by solitaire on Aug 22, 2010 5:52 AM ()
we are a sue happy society. Sucks that we need to be that way.
comment by panthurdreams on Aug 20, 2010 10:54 AM ()
Greedy little bastards we are. Thanks for dropping by.
reply by solitaire on Aug 22, 2010 5:50 AM ()
wow!so much for comments.Do not need mine
when I was in elementary school at a young age and was called in the Principal off for discipline.Never forget this.
She will roll her tongue and bit hard while she is giving me a rat hand with a bamboo stick.She loved it.Must had a -----------------
And it did hurt.She was bi tch.
comment by fredo on Aug 16, 2010 11:15 AM ()
Hey Fredo. Sorry for the late response. So much for the "good ol' days", eh?
reply by solitaire on Aug 19, 2010 8:18 AM ()
I went through the US Army's Ranger School, a year out of high school. In my high school corporal punishment was rampant and more like "Colonel" punishment. I got a bit more than my share of it. But in Ranger School it was so awful that everyone in my class (120 started and 28 of us finished) was covered with bruises. I think I still have marks from it on my body. Corporal punishment was nothing. We are raising a generation of wimps and sissies. Sorry if this offends anyone, but even the Army doesn't allow full-fisted punches anymore. I'm glad I survived it because it taught me to take what I had to take and learn from it.
comment by jondude on Aug 15, 2010 7:22 PM ()
Well, might doesn't make right. And "in the good ol' days", slavery was okay. We've come some distance from " My dad whipped my ass, and it didn't hurt me any (so I'll beat on my kids)". I have a problem with that.
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:31 AM ()
It seems we hear more and more about parents who take the kid's side against the teacher who is only asking for some respect and a quiet classroom so all the children have a better chance to learn. Later in life these same parents wonder why their adult children are jerks and have no manners and raise little mouthy obnoxious grandchildren jerks.
comment by troutbend on Aug 15, 2010 11:32 AM ()
I agree. I'm positive teachers have little, if any, effect on a child's behavior or personality. Home life and friends are the key (in my humble opinion).
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:34 AM ()
I am glad Indiana passed this law and wish we had one like it. I don't like corporal punishment either but parents need to take the responsibility for teaching courtesy, moral behavior, and responsibility.
Little bully boys always aroused my ire. I wish that kind of thing could
be grounds for suspension .
comment by elderjane on Aug 15, 2010 9:04 AM ()
Even girls were spanked at one time (never by me). There are more effective ways of being in control of a classroom.
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:36 AM ()
This is long overdue. I am not a proponent of corporal punishment, but teachers today face students/children with no respect and no fear. These days, the number of children that come from single parent homes is much higher than past decades, and parents do not reign in their children like they did in the past. Likely we all have endured some form of parents allowing children to run wild in restaurants or disrupt other patrons with loud and rude behavior. I don't know how teachers maintain control of their classrooms with undisciplined children.
comment by dragonflyby on Aug 15, 2010 8:59 AM ()
Perhaps things have changed in the 12 years I've been out of teaching. But I can honestly say that I saw little change in student behavior over my teaching career. Maybe it was there, and I didn't notice it. I did observe the onset of earlier puberty, however.
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:39 AM ()
With teachers getting fired all over the place because of ''lack of funds'--instead of city fathers doing their best to keep these important people on the job I'm all for teachers being protected in any way they can be!
We once had a teacher--ah, Mrs. Levy--will never forget her--who, if she found you chewing gum, would stick the gum in your hair--try to explain that to your mother--they/we all survived the trauma of our mothers PULLING the gum out of our hair--double punishment--and we survived!
comment by greatmartin on Aug 15, 2010 8:56 AM ()
I agree, although I have a problem with the "we survived" summation. Most of us do, but it doesn't make it right.
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:41 AM ()
Lawsuits are outta control. I am VERY glad IN is instituting this to help the teachers... it's so strange to me that parents blame the teachers for their kids misbehavior...
comment by kristilyn3 on Aug 15, 2010 8:45 AM ()
Little Johnny is never wrong. It must be the teacher's fault. Not good justification for bad behavior.
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:43 AM ()
Corporal punishment is not productive and engenders animosity and ingrains bad behavior in the resentful student. However, parents must be made to cooperate with disciplining their children. Perhaps suspension is the only alternative to really bad behavior. My Greek teacher (after hours instruction at the Greek church) once called me to the front of the class for punishment which consisted of beating the student's hand with a stick. As a pianist, even at that tender age, about 11 or so, I wasn't about to let that happen. I said the Greek equivalent of "no way" and I ran out and home. And never went back.
comment by tealstar on Aug 15, 2010 6:52 AM ()
I bet a teacher would never break the leg of a star football player! I'm proud to say I had good discipline for reasons other than striking a child. I think I earned their respect. Either that, or I was lucky.
reply by solitaire on Aug 16, 2010 8:46 AM ()

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