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Opt Out Day

This summer on the Last Comic Standing TV show, one of the jokes was that because she has no health insurance the woman goes to the airport so she can get a free mammogram from the TSA.

As the new more-detailed body scanners show up at more airports around the country, people are raising more objections to them. They can see under your clothes, so basically it's like you're naked. TSA claims the images are 'limited resolution' and can't be/aren't saved, but nobody believes that.

Think about it: they would want to save the images for evidence in case they need to prove there was a good reason for thinking someone was smuggling something improper onto an airplane.

There is a story going around about a TSA employee in Miami who attacked one of his co-workers for laughing at the size of his penis, so the scans are becoming a sensitive issue for men who might be a little defensive about size.

We don't hear so much about fears women have about being ogled by some minimum-wage employee in a back room, maybe that's a given, or maybe it's another example of everything is fine as long it's the girls who are upset, but don't make jokes about the size of a guy's package.

The alternative to the scan is the pat-down. But these aren't those pat-downs of the past, these are more touchy-grabby, with closer contact made with 'the crotchtal region' as one TSA employee phrased it. It requires TSA agents to grasp the body of the subject more firmly when running hands over limbs and also requires probing up to the genital areas of the body.

You've probably heard about that guy in California who told a TSA agent who was patting him down "If you touch my junk I'll have you arrested." He was escorted from the airport and is now being investigated by the feds with a likely $11,000 fine for leaving the security area.

The American Airlines pilots union has told its member pilots to refuse the new scans, opting for the pat down searches instead, and since the pat-downs are now more humiliating, the pilots are instructed to request they be done in a private room so as to maintain their dignity as professionals.

Part of the motivation behind this is to pressure the TSA into making pilots exempt from scans/patdowns or at least have their own private security screening areas.

The pilots are also saying the scans expose them to unnecessary ionic radiation. Flying a cross-Atlantic route during a solar flare can expose the pilots to the equivalent of 100 chest x-rays an hour, so they need to limit their other exposure as much as possible. I assume the passengers are also getting zapped, but this isn't about that.

I think for most of us who don't fly very often the scans aren't as big a deal, but I can see that frequent flyers and airline employees in particular who have to see the same TSA employees on a constant basis might not want what are basically their co-workers checking them out 'naked.'

For example, what if there was something interesting about Pilot Smith, and the next time he goes through security he sees the TSA employees crowding into the room where the imaging output monitor is to check it out.

For myself, I would rather endure a few seconds of a scan (while I think pleasant thoughts not related to airport security) than being groped in public.

Opt Out Day is a movement which is calling on air travelers to choose not to undergo the full-body scans on Nov. 24, the day before Thanksgiving and traditionally one of the year’s top travel days. The idea being that this will snarl up the security process and disrupt air travel, but I don't know that this hurts anyone as much as it hurts the passengers themselves.

posted on Nov 17, 2010 10:01 AM ()

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While I detest the groping aspect, I've decided lately I will not go along with the "easier" scanning. The TSA workers have to stop saying crap like, "When you bought your ticket you gave up your rights..." The scanners are expensive devices which companies have found a way to sell the government. But they can't detect plastic explosives if they're rolled like a pancake and worn against the skin; they can't detect any explosive if it's in someone's body cavity, and I just read that the scanners probably wouldn't have found the underwear bomber's explosive either. These stupid machines aren't giving us any security, they are devices of unreasonable search.
comment by drmaus on Nov 23, 2010 8:13 PM ()
The only good thing about all this furor is maybe it will force the TSA employees to have better training about how to approach people, and better communication in general. They claim they have to keep us all off balance so the terrorists can't figure out how to beat the system. I still think all the ruckus has come about because men are sensitive about their 'junk.'
reply by troutbend on Nov 26, 2010 6:25 PM ()
There has SERIOUSLY got to be a better way! I for one will not allow my human to get on a plane until one is found. I get that humans are scared, but I don't think turning air travel into an exercise in humiliation is helping anyone. If we make it hard to get bombs on planes, the bombers will select another target.
comment by zillahkatt on Nov 18, 2010 9:23 AM ()
Ask your human if they remember the good old days when air travel was less fraught with anxiety, and our biggest gripe about the airlines was the quality of the food they served.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:55 PM ()
There ought to be a better way.
comment by solitaire on Nov 18, 2010 7:05 AM ()
Yes, I wonder what it is. I'll bet the security people thought this new enhanced scanning was going to be it, and then the news people came along and made it into a big deal.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:53 PM ()
the sad part is that no matter how intrusive these searches are, some terrorist a--hole will find a way to circumvent them. I for one think the scans and pat downs are an invasion of privacy and should be resisted. People should write their elected reps to get this repealed or rescinded. Its just too invasive and does not guarantee safety.

reguards
yer feeling violated just reading about it pal
bugg
comment by honeybugg on Nov 18, 2010 1:52 AM ()
I just read where the newly-elected Senate majority leader was able to by pass the security measures, so I get the feeling our elected representatives are never going to feel our pain.
reply by troutbend on Nov 20, 2010 1:06 PM ()
The pilots are saying that these scans and pat downs don't add anything to safety, the only sure way is to do body cavity searches. Something we can all look forward to.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:36 PM ()
People must think they have something different than everyone
else under their clothes if they have a problem with the full
body scan. I'd rather feel safe on a plane than care
about someone seeing the outline of my body.
comment by crazylife on Nov 17, 2010 9:40 PM ()
I think some men really wish they had something bigger under their clothes and I suspect that's what's behind a lot of this ruckus.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:42 PM ()
Reason number 3 of why I won't fly anymore.
comment by jondude on Nov 17, 2010 7:16 PM ()
Yes, it enters into the equation, doesn't it? Maybe things will settle down after the holidays.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:43 PM ()
Hm. I haven't flown in a long time and don't foresee any adventures anytime soon but I do know that I wouldn't be worried about the scan, mostly because I'm positive nobody would want to linger at my naked image.
comment by juliansmom on Nov 17, 2010 4:05 PM ()
There is a recent movie on the Net of a 3-year old being patted down by TSA, very much against her will - just imagine if someone wanted to run their hands over Julian and he didn't want them to.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:45 PM ()
I have heard people kinda freaking out about this and also about Muslim women only having their head scarves patted down since it's against their religion for anyone to see them naked. It's causing quite a stir...
comment by kristilyn3 on Nov 17, 2010 1:25 PM ()
I saw a little bit about Congressional hearings where the head of TSA said it's not going to change any time soon. Interesting to see where we'll be with it 6 months from now.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:46 PM ()
Haven't traveled in a while. If it's not a great distance, would be inclined to want to drive and avoid all the crap. Ed and I drove to Virginia a few years ago. I think the numbnuts who are poorly trained people without a higher education and least of all, have any training in profiling, should not be hired for security. I think that security measures should include PROFILING and not just mass screening and groping.
comment by tealstar on Nov 17, 2010 1:10 PM ()
As bad a rap as profiling gets, I think it makes more sense than these supposedly random things where they single out someone for a pat-down and enhanced baggage search.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:48 PM ()
The scans are okay with me. Have some perspective. The point is to keep the plane from blowing up. Get over it. Besides, everyone has the choice not to fly.
comment by marta on Nov 17, 2010 12:35 PM ()
One of these days I'll have to ask Mr. Troutbend what he would think about it. We don't talk a lot, have to build up to it.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:49 PM ()
Well, I think I would opt for the scan. I heard one woman say that she
lost it during the pat down when employees hand went under her skirt.
comment by elderjane on Nov 17, 2010 10:38 AM ()
Yes, I think the scan would be the way to go. You know, I blame the news media for all this flap - they made this big deal about how horrible the scans are, and now we're all paranoid.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:51 PM ()
On our last trip we did not have any of this.Can wait till the next time.
It should be funOh!all right what do I know.No groping please and move along.
comment by fredo on Nov 17, 2010 10:19 AM ()
Be sure to let us know if anything exciting happens to you, Fredo.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:52 PM ()

Hm he was "escorted" but yet he may be fined for leaving the security area.

I would rather the scan than the groping also. Quicker.

Flying has become quite an experience. Anally raped by rising ticket, baggage costs etc, groped and peeped on before you get on the plane and then possible death.
comment by kjstone on Nov 17, 2010 10:16 AM ()
TSA is in trouble either way - too much screening - but if something goes wrong and terrorists get through, we're all going to blame the security people. I don't envy them.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:41 PM ()
Interesting, indeed. Fortunately, I don't fly as much as I used to. Kewl post.
comment by jerms on Nov 17, 2010 10:07 AM ()
Scary isn't it? I just posted about some of that stuff. Thanks for your kind remarks about my posts. I really should stay away from politics, but I DO have opinions just like everyone else.
Isn't that whole lake thing a mess? The Mexican investigator was killed as a result. I think it's a travesty.
reply by jerms on Nov 19, 2010 7:31 PM ()
Hope you & the Mrs. are doing well down there. I miss your posts about what's for dinner and your crochet projects. We saw a banner on the way home today 'Win a free Mexican Cruise!' and I said, 'Oh, no! Please! Don't send me on a cruise to Mexico.' After that recent Carnival Splendor mess, and with the airline security in an uproar, and someone from my home town getting shot by pirates on that lake on the border, I'll be much happier staying at home.
reply by troutbend on Nov 19, 2010 2:40 PM ()

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