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Religion > Big Dumb, Part Two
 

Big Dumb, Part Two

I said there was more--this not so bad, but part and parcel of the whole evenings' confrontations.

My father suddenly asked me when I became so "anti-religious". I told him I wasn't "anti", just not personally religious. He pressed me for specifics, reminding me of my church upbringing, my Methodist and Unitarian participation, my choir singing (and directing), etc.
His demeanor was very accusatory and hateful. Instead of me backing off apologetically, accepting his verbal abuse, as I usually do, I told him I have been a "non-believer" ever since high school--never a "Christian". I went through the motions simply to look good and not out of place in society. I also did it for my kids and wife (but I hated every moment of it).

Once divorced, I came "out of the closet" (25 yrs ago), although I still attended church (UU) even as an atheist. (Many Unitarians are atheists.).

Well, father went on a tirade about the importance of "believing" and the pitfalls of not believing, and implied he was ashamed I wasn't like everybody else in the family--past and present. I couldn't reason with him, of course. Arguing religion would have gotten me nowhere. "I am what I am, dad." Case closed.

posted on May 30, 2012 4:58 AM ()

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You're right -- arguing about belief with a rigid mind is a no-win. Anyway, those who are devout need to be because it is their only way to survive. So if you convince them, unless they have an inner reserve, they will fall apart. I don't need to disabuse them of their illusions, merely to prevent them from imposing their illusions on others.
comment by tealstar on Sept 3, 2012 4:20 PM ()
I read Part I and II. Sorry that your dad is still such a horses petuti. We don't think you're a loser. We like you just the way you are.
comment by dragonflyby on June 11, 2012 5:40 PM ()
I guess I would still be in the closet. With the families anyway. It's a don't ask, don't tell situation. But really, what's the big deal anyway? I think Canada is more relaxed about religion.
comment by crazylife on May 30, 2012 9:34 PM ()
If I lived in Germany, I'd be in the majority! 52% are non-believers. Your family probably knows anyway.
reply by solitaire on May 31, 2012 4:28 AM ()
well where do we go from here.I guess you had your say and now you will stay.Methodist by ex wife was and told her that I would not change or go through whatever they do.I am just me .So we went through the ceremony.
I told her before hand if you want to change then become Catholics and bring the kiddies up.
No she said,fine I could care less.Whatever she wanted This guy did not want either one of it.
Hope that the near future bring some relief to you or him.You came out of the closet.
comment by fredo on May 30, 2012 9:37 AM ()
I thought you'd like that "out of the closest" remark! That's the only thing I'm "outing".
reply by solitaire on May 30, 2012 6:03 PM ()
Discussing reason with religionists only causes them to become defensive so I gave up the practice long ago. "I won't try to talk you out of your beliefs if you don't try and talk me out of mine".
comment by jjoohhnn on May 30, 2012 9:23 AM ()
Hi John. Same here. One reason I enjoy golfing with my preacher friend is we don't discuss our beliefs, although we tease each other good naturally.
reply by solitaire on May 30, 2012 6:02 PM ()
Good for you for standing your ground. He can believe what he wants to believe and I actually think it's wonderful that you put your kids first and went along with it all while you weren't a believer. Kudos!
comment by kristilyn3 on May 30, 2012 7:35 AM ()
Thanks. I sometimes wonder if I did the right thing. Perhaps I should have stood up for my (non)beliefs. I was living a lie.
reply by solitaire on May 30, 2012 5:59 PM ()
It constantly encourages me to be steadfast in my belief in Science, the closest thing to a true 'god,' when I see and hear how close-minded some religionists have become. It is best to change the subject when they try to proselytize and do the 'missionary' thing.
comment by jondude on May 30, 2012 5:34 AM ()
I didn't even bring up the influence of science (and reason). Figured it would be a lost cause on a closed mind.
reply by solitaire on May 30, 2012 5:57 PM ()

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