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Money & Finance > The Sun God Owes Us Big
 

The Sun God Owes Us Big


When the weather gets bad, I don't think we should all start praying to the Sun God for good weather. For the same reason, I don't think anyone -- and especially not financial advisors -- should advocate superstitious thinking concerning money, either. But it's being done, all around.

The Secret, for instance, is a book designed to teach you self-delusion and magical thinking.

Suze Orman, too, teaches a kind of magical thinking in relation to finances. She knows better, but decides to give no respect to her audiences, and tells them that sending money out into the world (like giving to charity) makes money come back to you. She actually describes this as readjusting money's behavior towards you. Right, because money thinks and has an attitude towards you….

This bothers me for 2 reasons. Not only does it eat away at our ability to think rationally, it undermines the charitable impulse. Suze Orman is giving her audiences the same reasoning that the prosperity gospel preachers give to their audiences -- which is a line of utter, shitty, self-interest. The prosperity gospel teaches the idea that you should give and be kind in order to get benefits from it. That God will pay you back if you do this.

It's a market relationship with the universe.

There was a TED lecture I listened to the other day, found when I was looking for something else. It was about this market-society thing increasing in the U.S.
Found it: Michael Sandel whyweshouldnttrustmarketswith

He ends the talk on an important note. I love the TED lectures. The last one I watched was mostly over my head, but interesting still. It was about algorithms, the kind used in both stock market trading and online marketing. The speaker told the story of the book The Making Of A Fly, which, due to algorithms used by the sellers, zoomed up to a price of $23 million -- without anyone buying or selling the book. It was mostly 2 sellers, whose sales algorithms caused them to check the other guy's price and continually adjust to it. This was a couple of years ago. I never heard about it at the time.

posted on Nov 1, 2013 6:12 PM ()

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I always enjoy the few seconds between the time I read the title and when the page loads - all kinds of things come to mind, and then it's different from what I was imagining, but still entertaining.
comment by troutbend on Nov 2, 2013 2:13 PM ()
Challenge accepted. I will never let you know what's coming.
reply by drmaus on Nov 3, 2013 10:02 AM ()
Don't be too hard on Orman. There is a lot to be said for altruism and for positive thinking. The trick is in not expecting it to have magical powers that translates into worldly advantage. The reward is in how you feel about yourself, and when you feel good, you gain confidence and that is what translates into worldly success.
comment by tealstar on Nov 2, 2013 11:33 AM ()
Actually you've said the one half of the good part of charity and I focused on the other. I was thinking of the show Friends, in which Phoebe is desperately trying to find a completely selfless act, and she can't. Every time she donates to PBS or something, they give her a toaster or phone. She gives anonymously, but then the good feeling she gets seems like a reward. She wants a better relationship with the universe than that. So she finally lets a bee sting her, but then discovers that the bee dies after it stings. But she keeps trying. I like her.
reply by drmaus on Nov 3, 2013 10:11 AM ()
Nope, I have to be hard on anyone advising about finances who refers to that magical-thinking crap. It's too pervasive, I hear people talking this way all the time. Yes -- when you practice giving things away you are accustoming yourself to it and easing your fear of not having money, and confidence helps you make good decisions instead of investing with scared money. She should explain that instead of offering easy-to-remember-and-repeat mottoes that aren't even true. I'm much more offended by the people who push that book The Secret, however.
reply by drmaus on Nov 3, 2013 10:01 AM ()
He is here today and a fine job.He did a great job this fall for us.
comment by fredo on Nov 2, 2013 10:29 AM ()
He needs to put in some more work here....
reply by drmaus on Nov 3, 2013 10:17 AM ()
I am so used to having a lot of sun and I miss it when we have a few dreary
days. No wonder people made up the sun God. I never thought of magical
thinking and it's effect on finances but you are absolutely right, for
example the stress on tithing in a lot of religions. A market relationship
with the universe is ridiculous. Bad things do happen to us as well as good things.
comment by elderjane on Nov 2, 2013 5:49 AM ()
I cannot imagine living in much sun like in Oklahoma. In fact I can't imagine living where you can see the horizon all the time. The first time I went out west it scared me. No trees in the way, no hills, no protection from the Sun god! I could see all around me!!
reply by drmaus on Nov 3, 2013 10:20 AM ()
He's been here!!!
comment by greatmartin on Nov 1, 2013 6:40 PM ()
He must like the company there. I seldom see him
reply by drmaus on Nov 1, 2013 7:23 PM ()

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