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Footnotes

Most of the books I read are mysteries and they don't generally have footnotes. Authors like Ellery Queen (yes, I know this is a pen name for two cousins) might use a footnote to tell us the title of the previous novel in which Inspector Richard Queen solved a previous crime, something like 'he had recently recovered from wounds suffered in a shootout (1)' where (1) down at the bottom of the page = "The Mystery of the Red Herring." (Not a direct quote, this is a hypothetical.)

Sometimes I read non-fiction history and those authors can really get carried away with footnotes, to the point where the footnotes occupy more space on the page than the text above.

I looked up 'when to use footnotes' and got this:

"You should always use footnotes (or endnotes) in order to give the source of facts or opinions which you have obtained from outside sources. If you quote any author, or document of any kind, you must specify where the original information can be found. This is necessary for one reason only: your reader may want to consult the same text or document, for whatever reason, and so you must specify it.

Of course, footnotes may also contain textual material of your own doing. There are times when you want to make a statement about something but it doesn't quite fit in with your outline. The best thing to do is to include this information as a textual footnote. In this way, you can still include the information without taking away from the flow of the essay."

So those historians were following the above rule. Fine. But the non-fiction book I'm currently reading is getting on my nerves because the footnotes seem to me to be as much in the flow of the story as the story itself. I tried ignoring them, then I tried reading them when I got to the bottom of the page, but had to go back to put them into context.

For example, reading about the tragic sinking of the ironclad ship Victoria off the coast of Tripoli in 1893:

"On the other hand Brackenbury, in the unwieldy Edinburgh, who had started to turn a little beforehand in order to off-set his ship's sluggishness, and who was swinging rapidly towards the motionless Camperdown, reversed his helm very promptly and passed outside her. (1)


Bottom of the page:
(1) This goes far to support the view that the Victoria and Camperdown might have avoided collision, even when end-on to each other."

Now why couldn't he have put that footnote thought in the text? A little comma, maybe an occasional semi-colon would have gone a long way to keep the narrative moving along. I'm going to lose patience with this guy and have to pick up a Perry Mason or Miss Marple for some relief.



Cataract Canyon from Dead Horse Overlook (near Moab).

posted on Apr 29, 2011 5:08 PM ()

Comments:

I often give the source of my essays, but I put it in the text when I can. Footnotes really can detract from the flow.
comment by redimpala on May 1, 2011 8:46 AM ()
Especially long, long footnotes that go off on a whole other story.
reply by troutbend on May 1, 2011 4:40 PM ()
I hate "messin' " with footnotes, esp. if they're at the back of the book. You gotta flip back and forth. Irritating. I drove right past Dead Horse St. Park on my way to Canyonland's Island in the Sky section. Dang!!!! Wish I had time or inclination to go there. Next time.
comment by solitaire on May 1, 2011 6:25 AM ()
There's a bunch of tamarisk clogging up the McElmo and Yellow Jacket creeks, tributaries to the San Juan. And guess where that is - down there at my uncle's place. You could organize your own little wilderness cleanup project, camp out at Ismay Trading Post and take a side trip to Dead Horse Point.
reply by troutbend on May 1, 2011 4:43 PM ()
I agreed with elderjane.The picture is great and what a scene.It would be nice as a painting?Is this a photograph?Loved it.How about that for a foot note.Oh!all right what do I know?
comment by fredo on Apr 30, 2011 6:20 AM ()
Yes, it's a photograph. It so perfectly captures that feeling of being in shadow looking out toward where the sun is still hitting the mesa in the distance.
reply by troutbend on May 1, 2011 4:45 PM ()
I have also read tomes that group the footnotes at the end of the book, along with the index. This doesn't impede the flow, although if you are avid about reading footnotes, it can be just as annoying.

What a spectacular photo -- it looks like a painting. I agree with Jeri - frame it, put it on your wall.
comment by tealstar on Apr 30, 2011 5:23 AM ()
At least when the footnotes are in the back they are easier to ignore, even though sometimes I'll look at them and they actually add information that helped with understanding the story. And then I just feel disgusted about the whole thing.
reply by troutbend on May 1, 2011 4:48 PM ()
That picture of Cataract Canyon needs to be framed and put on your wall.
It is devastatingly beautiful. It took my breath away.
comment by elderjane on Apr 30, 2011 4:56 AM ()
That part of the country calls to my heart but I have never worked out how to live in three places at one time.
reply by troutbend on May 1, 2011 4:49 PM ()
Sorry I can't help myself--I thought this was going to be notes about feet!! I know, I know but as I said I couldn't help it! Forgive me?
comment by greatmartin on Apr 29, 2011 7:09 PM ()
Oh, of course. It's these little moments of fun that get us through life.
reply by troutbend on Apr 29, 2011 7:20 PM ()
Totally agree. But the author may not be solely to blame, as editors and fact checkers in academic publishing can push for footnote additions when they find holes or omissions. Or, when books are reprinted after the initial publication, and new facts come to light not known when the book was being written, footnotes are essential in non-fiction. Very frustrating to read text like that. When I worked as a technical editor on a non-fiction book project years ago, it was a constant debate.
comment by marta on Apr 29, 2011 5:17 PM ()
Okay. You're the expert. I'm just the reader slogging my way through. It's like art, I know what I like when I see it.
reply by troutbend on Apr 29, 2011 5:24 PM ()

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