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A Doctor Dines at Ci-ci's

I shared a pizza last night at Ci-Ci's with a most interesting man.  Turns out he is a thoraic/heart surgeon at Presbyterian Hospital here in Dallas.  One does NOT expect a doctor to be eating at Ci-Ci's but stranger things have happened, I guess.
It was late, about 7:30, when I stopped in for a bite to eat on my way to the pharmacy.  He was in line directly ahead of me and had just ordered a special pizza loaded with everything.  "Would you like to try a slice? he asked.
"Sure, why not?"  I replied,  So he invited me to eat with him.  He was quite a conversationalist and, I imagine, quite lonely.  In the course of the next hour I learned he had lost his wife to uterine cancer six years ago and had reared his two daughters--now nineteen and twenty-one--as a single dad. Both now attend Stanford.
He graduated from Harvard and we discussed everything, including how science and religion often come into conflict with one another.  To illustrate, he told me something that I did not know.  
He said that when a baby is born, as it goes through the birth canal, it gets a final "wash" of hormones from its mother, which determines its attraction to the other sex.  Ideally, the child, if a girl, receives a wash of about 75 per cent estrogen and 25% testosterone.  If a boy, that percentage is reversed. However, occasionally, the mother's body makes a mistake.  Perhaps a boy gets a girl's wash, for instance, or vice versa for a girl.  Then one is attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite sex.  
If a 50-50 wash occurs, a person is bi-sexual, though that, he said, is extremely rare.  "Most people," he said, "who claim to be bi-sexual  are really homosexual who are living a heterosexual life because of stereotypical expectations.
Isn't that interesting?

posted on Aug 24, 2013 3:14 PM ()


This was mentioned just briefly in that article I posted a few years ago from the American Pediatric Association that reports one in ten babies is born with gender issues ranging from actual physiological/anatomical variations from the 'norm' to the wash you described. For me, it does not contradict Christianity as I do not believe God makes mistakes. I do hope you see him again. Everyone needs friends.
comment by dragonflyby on Aug 30, 2013 12:39 AM ()
I realized reading this again that I don't regard what the doctor said as actually theoretical. At least not the first part. I was taught in classes that late exposure to hormones in utero continues to fine-tune a baby's sexuality; but I think what happens when you're given a set of organs, and the hormone levels and genes, etc, is still not clear. I don't mean you can be "cured of the gay" or that to be gay is a choice -- what I mean is to dispute the very last thing you mention the doctor saying about bisexuality. Who's to say what's bisexual, anyway? Maybe it isn't a good term because everyone may be potentially bisexual. It's clear to a lot of us (women, especially) that the same visual sexual cues work for both male and female who identify as heterosexuals.
comment by drmaus on Aug 25, 2013 10:07 AM ()
The hormonal wash theory is new to me but I have for years felt that biology more than any other factor determines sexuality. As for the religious negativity that is leveled at the gay community, there is no logic to it and the professionals in that industry should get a grip and accept all earthly humans.
comment by tealstar on Aug 25, 2013 6:42 AM ()
i think we all caught on to the 'date' aspect of this blog!
that is an interesting theory though.
did you exchange phone numbers?
comment by elkhound on Aug 25, 2013 5:46 AM ()
nothing wrong with a pizza , just have to find one that makes a goodie , there are 4 around close but only go to one -------be careful
comment by kevinshere on Aug 25, 2013 12:20 AM ()
Well, that is very interesting, and sounds like he has come up with his own rationalization. Now we'll have to keep an eye out for more information about that theory. Even if there's no romance, it must have been fun to spend some time with such a good conversationalist.
comment by troutbend on Aug 24, 2013 8:29 PM ()
Oh, the Ci Ci's Pizza here is just awful. Your local store must be doing things differently because no one in his right mind would eat the pizza here. Pizza here seems to be either something to run from, or really good, not so much in between.

Sexual differentiation in fetuses, discussed over pizza? That's a memorable evening.
comment by drmaus on Aug 24, 2013 7:28 PM ()
The Ci-Ci's here in Dallas are not bad at all. They are usually packed at both lunch and dinner. But you are right. It was weird pizza conversation and made for quite a memorable evening!
reply by redimpala on Aug 24, 2013 8:17 PM ()
Looks like Jeri's sniffer is working well.
comment by jjoohhnn on Aug 24, 2013 7:25 PM ()
Maybe! We will see how things progress.
reply by redimpala on Aug 24, 2013 8:18 PM ()
Do I sniff a romance?
comment by elderjane on Aug 24, 2013 5:05 PM ()
Oh, I don't know. He's a lot younger than I, but you would tell me not to worry about that, wouldn't you?
reply by redimpala on Aug 24, 2013 5:48 PM ()
Our Ci-Ci's here is a pizz all you can eat buffet with a salad bar and desserts for $5!!!!
comment by greatmartin on Aug 24, 2013 4:32 PM ()
This one here is also but one can also order a special pizza if her chooses to.
reply by redimpala on Aug 24, 2013 5:49 PM ()
I've said that about "bi-sexuals" for years and been sneered at--I have never heard about a man leaving his male lover for a female--but that's my experience.
Never heard the 'wash' theory!!!
comment by greatmartin on Aug 24, 2013 4:31 PM ()
Had a friend, gay, who was actually capable of heterosexual feelings and when the aids scare became overwhelming, decided he would go straight. And he did. He thought he might try a "test" relationship with me because, being married and older than he, I was "safe". I declined gracefully. Subsequently, he married a woman he met at his health club who knew all about him, and fathered a child. Through the years (I had worked with him at Harper & Row), each time I saw him, his persona became more and more traditionally masculine. I do think he still had moments of attraction to men, but he was not acting on them, and he loved his wife.
reply by tealstar on Aug 25, 2013 6:39 AM ()
Neither had I, but the man is a doctor, so perhaps he knows.
reply by redimpala on Aug 24, 2013 5:49 PM ()
that was interesting to hear or read.So are we going to see him again?
comment by fredo on Aug 24, 2013 3:57 PM ()
I don't know, Fredo. Maybe.
reply by redimpala on Aug 24, 2013 5:50 PM ()

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