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Meetings Today

When I was here by myself, going to flood recovery meetings kept me busy. There were a lot of them, but now they have tapered down to a few. Once a month the same group has two meetings in one day with slightly different attendees. These are the steering committees of the coalition that is supposedly steering the recovery of the river. I pushed my way in there because I like to know what is going on.

Mr. Troutbend is staying home to keep working on his projects. Last night I thanked him for all the hard work he has been doing around here. He is constantly on the go, and yesterday he set up a small pump to water the back lawn because we haven't had rain in a long time. Getting the irrigation system working with the new larger pump is going to require a lot of work because many of our sprinkler pipes were broken or carried away in the flood.

We have found several places around our bridge where the river bank looks okay, but underneath the top surface it's all hollowed out leaving the tree roots as the only support for about 4 inches of dirt. When you walk on it, your foot sinks in. Someone from the county indicated to me that they might come put riprap around the bridge ends, but I don't know how far along the bank this would extend, and if would solve our problem. Or when they would do it. Or if they will do it. It's hard to make plans and figure out if we should go ahead and hire someone to try to address it. Not that it is an emergency, but it's not good.

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You can see some of the sprinkler pipe coming out of that culvert.

posted on June 18, 2014 7:04 AM ()

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Thalweg is German for "Valley way,"
comment by jondude on June 20, 2014 5:18 AM ()
After the floods in La, people wrote a lot about how the beaches needed to be rebuilt, but it turns out the natural process is so much better since it allows structure -- mainly tiny root systems growing and strengthening the entire thing -- to develop. This must be a similar tradeoff: You can lay down dirt and rock, but it isn't firm without pressure, time and other processes. Makes it hard.
comment by drmaus on June 18, 2014 3:06 PM ()
Where it doesn't look like our good trees will die if we do nothing, we'll probably wait for next year to see how the dirt settles in and then decide what more to do: passive restoration.
reply by troutbend on June 18, 2014 5:44 PM ()
I'm always overawed by the technical stuff you discuss. Also I like all the words you use so familiarly: culvert, riprap... I don't know, there have been many others.
comment by drmaus on June 18, 2014 3:03 PM ()
I think the most obscure of them (to me) is thalweg: "The line defining the lowest points along the length of a river bed or valley." Reading that, I still don't know what it means, so I still have to google for a picture to illustrate it. I came across it in an article, and have never heard anyone use it in a sentence, so I will never utter it in public because it might not apply around here or be archaic.
reply by troutbend on June 18, 2014 6:20 PM ()
Think how far you have already come. It will all come together because you
are on top of the situation.
comment by elderjane on June 18, 2014 1:41 PM ()
Over by the red cabin is still a big mess, and I pretend it's not over there, avoid that area entirely.
reply by troutbend on June 18, 2014 6:24 PM ()
Is your bridge weakened because of this? What could happen to the trees without a good soil pack?

Sending HUGS!
comment by marta on June 18, 2014 11:56 AM ()
The bank is more weakened than the bridge - the bridge would stand and 30 - 40 feet of bank could wash out around the ends of it. The trees: Aside from having less root-soil contact for nutrient absorption, I worry that the roots might be too exposed to freezing winter temperatures and dry air, and high winds can blow them over.
reply by troutbend on June 18, 2014 6:28 PM ()
Is that the bank in the center of the photo to the right of the bridge end where the riprap would go? Would everything that is there, boulders, etc., have to be removed and the grade leveled and smoothed first?
comment by boots586 on June 18, 2014 11:23 AM ()
Yes, they would put riprap along the base of that concrete bridge end, and hopefully some of the neighboring bank. Since the damage extends out a bit, I worry the county would say that is past their territory, but the weakness was caused by water swirling around the end of the bridge. Yes, I think we need to dig out the bank a little bit to try to open up some of the caves where it is hollowed out and fill it with rocks and good dirt. If we had enough riprap, we'd replace the big river boulders with it because it is designed to hold up better.
reply by troutbend on June 18, 2014 6:32 PM ()
Looks like this will/is a never ending project!
comment by greatmartin on June 18, 2014 8:37 AM ()
In about a year things will settle down, and we'll let nature take over, just watch things grow. (I hope.)
reply by troutbend on June 18, 2014 6:34 PM ()

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