Have been trying for hours to get thru an 800 number to pay for my birth cert. Incessantly busy.

My friend who works in HR for Toyota said nowadays one has to have secondary proof of identity (birth cert, social, passport) besides your DL. The agency I had an interview with said it's a state requirement to have this info for the employee's I-9 form, which US citizens need for employment.

My last 4 jobs never asked for any of this. Of course, I'm spanning at least 15 yrs, but geez - !

I was going to get a passport duplicate, but you need your birth cert for that. Applying for another social takes 2 wks before you even get the form to request one.

I remember having to take our son to Westwood to take care of matters pertaining to his passport. Then we had to go elsewhere to obtain his birth cert.

Nothing is simple these days!