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Money & Finance > Floods and Taxes
 

Floods and Taxes

Last night I attended a tax seminar about tax handling of disaster losses. It's very complicated, as is most everything to do with the tax code. The presenter was a CPA flown in from California. He has a lot of experience with natural disasters what with all the earthquakes and wildfires in that state.

He was a character, and can barely see. Whenever he needed to see what slide of his Powerpoint he was at, he had to go to his laptop and peer at it closely. His presentation style wasn't the best, and some people left early, but for those of us who stayed to the end, he told us how to find a 'hidden' white paper on his website that covers the entire presentation.

I went in there thinking I was going to get some concise information, but soon realized it was more conceptual, so I just sat back and enjoyed the show. One thing that is hard for people to understand is the difference between how insurance is figured and how taxes are figured. Of course, the two meet because the insurance proceeds offset the disaster loss, and they both require a lot of documentation.

The most important message that I hope the attendees took away was they had better not try to do their own taxes if they are going to declare disaster losses. It's more than a matter of figuring out that $5000 in appliances (for example) were destroyed: you have to figure out their current value the day before the flood, subtract $100 per disaster event, and see if it's greater than 10% of your gross income.

And there are all sorts of mistakes we can make if we look at the short-term benefits without understanding the tax consequences of our decisions. It's always good to find this out sooner or later.

posted on Feb 12, 2014 9:28 AM ()

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I gave been avoiding awesome for 10 years. I think I can handle it.
comment by tealstar on Feb 15, 2014 7:37 AM ()
I'll call maintance who will be over to fix ANY problem I have within 24 hours!!!
comment by greatmartin on Feb 13, 2014 4:13 PM ()
Re awesome, I only use it for really special events or people. There is no other word to describe John's brain when it starts whirring.
comment by tealstar on Feb 13, 2014 1:03 PM ()
It's a slippery slope, and pretty soon you'll find yourself gushing 'awesome' about hot dogs, a glass of iced tea, or the color of your used car.
reply by troutbend on Feb 14, 2014 4:30 PM ()
Sounds like a mess. I though I was going to have the same problem with figuring current value of losses after my garage fire, but I left the spaces blank and nothing was said. Got full replacement value. Good luck with it.
comment by jjoohhnn on Feb 13, 2014 10:52 AM ()
Looking at the devastation of our landscaping, most of us in this area think our property value has gone down a lot, but it really hasn't in my case, and certainly not as far as the IRS is concerned. The IRS has a principle that this is a temporary thing, not a permanent detriment to the value of the property, so I don't think it's worth hiring an appraiser to tell me this.
reply by troutbend on Feb 13, 2014 10:59 AM ()
It is something I would just have to turn over to our lawyer who does
our taxes. He humors me because he was Bobby's fraternity brother and we
are the only non-corporate tax payers that he does.
comment by elderjane on Feb 13, 2014 6:34 AM ()
Even though I have a good accountant, I like to know what's going on and understand how the taxes are computed. In the case of these disaster losses, it's entirely possible I won't want to claim them, and that will save a lot of time and money doing all the work for that.
reply by troutbend on Feb 13, 2014 10:51 AM ()
Cant understand this ---do you pay tax on insurance claims
comment by kevinshere on Feb 12, 2014 6:48 PM ()
The money collected from the insurance claim decreases the loss from the disaster, so it's not directly taxed as income, but it reduces the amount that would help lower taxes owed. See? Just as convoluted as our tax code.
reply by troutbend on Feb 13, 2014 10:46 AM ()
I was talking to my brother about taxes and crops and drought relating to his family farm in Kansas, and the Farm Bill, and how complicated it all is. I thought of you and the huge task of taxes and insurance and disaster finances. My brother has a whiz CPA. Sounds like you will be a specialist CPA, too.
comment by marta on Feb 12, 2014 5:19 PM ()
The Farm Bill just passed. There are good things and bad things about it; I don't approve of all the millions that go to the big corporate farms owned by millionaires while the small farmers struggle.
reply by troutbend on Feb 13, 2014 10:48 AM ()
Impressed with your ability to get information you need, and that you understand it. I have never done my own taxes. I know what I'm good at -- taxes ain't it. Now, of course, Ed gathers the info (I do help) and we fedex it to our account in New York. We've had him for years. He is a computer in a business suit. Awesome, and cute, too.
comment by tealstar on Feb 12, 2014 1:17 PM ()
I see you've joined the 'Awesome' generation.
reply by troutbend on Feb 13, 2014 10:52 AM ()
Reason 5,873 NOT to own property!
comment by greatmartin on Feb 12, 2014 10:42 AM ()
Homeownership is worth the trouble - all these challenges are stimulating.
reply by troutbend on Feb 13, 2014 10:53 AM ()

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