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Pennies



The great French writer Honoré de Balzac once wrote about
the difficulty many people have forgiving a man for being penniless. [Le Pere
Goriot]  We may all be penniless soon if,
as some predict, the Lincoln penny goes the way of the dinosaur. 

A recent Time article points out that our Canadian neighbors have already done away with
their penny effective Feb. 4 (anticipated savings of about $4 million a year).   Australia scrapped the penny in 1990.  But a recent poll found that two-thirds of
Americans want to keep the penny.  Unfortunately, it presently costs the U. S.
Mint two cents to produce a one cent coin
(analogies to the U. S. Postal
Service may be forgiven).  Dueling
studies draw differing conclusions re what affect the demise of the penny would
have on consumers.  One claims the result
would be a “rounding up” tax on the populace amounting to as much as $1.5
billion over a 5-year period, but I discount this study because it was
commissioned by the lobbying group that represents (and is funded by) the
government’s exclusive supplier of penny blanks for minting.  A more recent study (2006) found that
consumers did not pay more when prices were rounded to the nearest nickel.  The Time article inexplicably fails to mention what has resulted in the 23 years since
the Aussie penny died. 

According to cointrackers.com, the Lincoln penny was made
of 95% copper & 5% zinc from 1959 – 1985.  Since ’85, it has been 97.5% zinc & 2.5% copper.  It’s basically a zinc core with a very thin
copper jacket.

Australia increased nickel production after scrapping the
penny.  Unfortunately, in this country
each nickel costs the U. S. Mint 10 cents to make, according to the Time article.  There’s nothing quite like the efficiencies of
government!   The good news is that nickels, which are 90%
copper and 10% nickel alloy, are said to be worth $0.069 each.  Because both pennies and nickels cost more to
produce than they are actually worth, François Velde, an economist at the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, proposes getting rid of the penny and the nickel.

The Time article says that two-thirds of all in-store purchases are now made with debit
or credit cards, making it harder to defend keeping the penny.   So what will happen to the penny?  Perhaps we should look to the old, anonymous
nursery rhyme:

Lucy Locket lost her pocket / Kitty Fisher found it;

There was not a penny in it / But a ribbon round it.

posted on Feb 1, 2013 9:45 AM ()

Comments:

You want to persuade a public which hasn't accepted global warming that it's okay if their prices are rounded up by a penny, ever? Good luck.
comment by drmaus on Feb 2, 2013 11:56 AM ()
I am a yo you.Want to pull my strings.
comment by fredo on Feb 2, 2013 5:29 AM ()
Mr. Troutbend collects coins. He'll be sorry when the penny is eliminated because he loves finding them in parking lots. Back when the slot machines spewed out coins, he examined all that he could, and it slowed down his gambling, which was a good thing.
comment by troutbend on Feb 1, 2013 8:52 PM ()
My wife gets excited too when she finds pennies in parking lots. I have purposely planted them for her to find just to please her.
reply by steve on Feb 2, 2013 7:57 AM ()
Every time it rains Penney from Heaven.Oh!hell where am I going with this.DunnoThe only thing that is rounded is me up and down.
comment by fredo on Feb 1, 2013 4:33 PM ()
You sound like a yoyo...
reply by steve on Feb 1, 2013 6:14 PM ()
It makes no sense at all to keep producing pennies and nickels. It is such
a no brainer that only the government would persist in this folly.
comment by elderjane on Feb 1, 2013 4:17 PM ()
But at least this is folly that doesn't result in lots of death, e.g. the Iraq War, the war in Afghanistan, etc. The worse that can happen is we run out of penny wrappers.
reply by steve on Feb 1, 2013 6:13 PM ()
"A more recent study (2006) found that consumers did not pay more when prices were rounded to the nearest nickel."
They needed a study for this?
Prices ending in 0 cents and 5 cents are not rounded.
Prices ending in 1 cent, 2 cents, 6 cents and 7 cents are rounded down.
Prices ending in 3 cents, 4 cents, 8 cents and 9 cents are rounded up.
There you have it. 40% of the time, the price is rounded up, 40% of the time, it is rounded down, and 20% of the time, no rounding is needed.
comment by miker on Feb 1, 2013 3:35 PM ()
So there you have it, folks, from Loose Robes' own privately retained economist! Who needs gov't studies, I ask you? Not us.
reply by steve on Feb 1, 2013 6:11 PM ()
I guess this means pennies really would have to come from heaven...
comment by catdancer on Feb 1, 2013 2:13 PM ()
...or somewhere.
reply by steve on Feb 1, 2013 6:11 PM ()

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