that's a joke, I 've done well with roses, not veggies. This year I put some "herbs" on the side of the house and decided I wanted to plant tomatoes. The only really sunny spot is in the front yard, on the side of the house. If you look outside of the front window, ( from Lynell's room) you can spot the flowers and right beside them, six tomatoes plants. I'm so excited, I found baby tomatoes today.