Ever notice how swearing be it loud or silent makes things seem or even makes you feel better, it even make you calm down a bit lol.
well after a few more hours looking for answers for things that are not in the manual , thinking you have it and then download it , then find in doing so you have a heap of other stuff that you get as well, wrong answer--- and then remove at that and start again
Managed to get it working this morning and saved a tape to my documents . HOORAY at last , no bloody way it did not have audio, bugger bugger bugger.
Started from scratch and found the options page after you set capture , in their you have to go to audio and tell it to play audio when capturing , ok done that and tried capture again , this time I had sound as I could see it playing on screen. I let it run for ten minutes --stopped and saved video , when I played it back was good EXCEPT for drum being played in the back ground that's when I gave it away for awhile i shut it down , deleted what was recorded and forgot about it till after dinner .
Tonight I stared the program again and looked in all the settings, in one I found 3 speaker symbols which I was able to open , they all played drum , managed to delete them then captured video again for 5 minutes saved and played,
this time all went well. even managed while I was checking settings to make it save in mpeg 2
Am all set for tomorrow to make first full copy of VHS to dvd --- is it the lull before the storm I hope not