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Preemptive War Freaks Make Reality


Premptive War Freaks Make Reality
An "unnamed Administration official" -- generally assumed to be
Karl Rove -- famously put it this way to journalist Ron Suskind back in October 2004:

"[He] said that guys like me were 'in what we call the
reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that
solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded
and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me
off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're
an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're
studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating
other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort
out. We're history's actors.... and you, all of you, will be left to just study
what we do.'"

 

posted on July 11, 2008 8:37 AM ()

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You give the clumsy U.S. propaganda efforts past and present far, far too much credit. They're pin pricks in comparison to the propaganda and indoctrination policies of the Soviets, Chinese or Cubans to name a few. And the concept certainly did not originate in the U.S. as you so ridiculously claim. When you say such non-sense you demonstrate the effectiveness of the reality that was constructed for you. If you're looking for the begining point of creative reality on a political level I suggest you look to Marxism. On a social level religion beats them all by a million years.

Most interesting is your comment that 80% of Americans want out of Iraq. You could not have used a worse example to support your argument about the effectiveness of Bush reality design. Clearly, by that very statistic (80%), Leftist reality design efforts have overwhelmed the common sense conclusion that independant thinking citizens would have arrived at concerning the justification and need for that war. The reason 80% of Americans take a negative position on the war is that the Leftists in media, education and politics have created the very negative view of reality that you've bought into.

While I disagree with your construction of the Iraq war as a pre-emptive one as you like to color it, what amazes me most about Leftism is that it considers a pre-emptive war to be some sort of crime. If someone points a gun at you with the intention of killing you and you shoot him first that's a pre-emptive strike. If you have the power to stop someone from killing you and you don't do it you have, for all practical purposes, commited suicide. Only people hopelessly detatched from reality would condemn across the board an individual or nation's right to self-defense by justifiable pre-emption. It's either insane or suicidal to commit to such a policy.
comment by think141 on July 12, 2008 7:06 AM ()
Rove wishes he could create our reality. Media and education have created reality for everyone before politicians ever get the chance. What effect politicians can have to effect perception in adults can only succeed in relationship to the indoctrination undergone in youth. Rove can only dream of creating a Republican reality when media, education and the Dems are already in a lockstep partnership.
comment by think141 on July 11, 2008 2:04 PM ()
Rove just refused to answer a subpoena to appear before Congress, so he will probably go to jail for it.
comment by jondude on July 11, 2008 10:01 AM ()
Doctor Strangelove's philosophy.
comment by jondude on July 11, 2008 8:56 AM ()
comment by texastar on July 11, 2008 8:44 AM ()

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