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Politics & Legal > Taxes and Free Press.
 

Taxes and Free Press.


Oh good lord. I am so ill from all this
bullshit about Obama is going to tax you to death. Those who spill it,
apparently have not stopped to compare side by side what the two plans
involve. I have told many "read what Obama is proposing for yourself"
but that never breaks through. I have linked to it a hundred times
over, but you can lead a horse to water but not make it drink. So while
I know for many, this topic is boring, and if so, I am sorry, but it
seems to be all they have left as far as drums to try and beat (and
funny how they forget that McCain was opposed to said tax cuts, before
he was the candidate and then magically was for it). They want those
Bush tax cuts for the top 2%, because trickle down economics has worked
SO WELL, just look around! It's produced SO MANY jobs, just look at
unemployment (Ok, don't look at that either, it has been rising
non-stop as well). I mean, being in a country who ranks 36th in free press according to the 2008 report from Reporters without Boarders along with Bosnia and South Africa, it is no wonder people don't know the facts. But before I go into this, there is a rant I want to make...
Stop being single issue voters. STOP IT. All you spew is this with
economics. Let me remind you of McCain's enabling for this: Illegal
wiretapping and Data mining, free speech "zones", an illegal invasion
and occupation in Iraq, letting Osama go on more than one occasion,
torture, rendition, voter suppression, the outing of a covert CIA
opperative, women's justice issues, ignoring the civil rights of
Americans, gun confiscations and ignoring the tragedy of Katrina, and
yes the deregulation that led us to where we are today. McCain
supporters stand there screaming ME, ME, ME, and mine, mine, mine and
beat this FALSE drum on taxes and ignore all that tragedy, all those deaths while they do it
supporting that party that pushed and enabled all we seen.
So, anyway, you can of course go to the individual candidates
website to see what they say about their own programs. But, to try and
weed out their individual spins on it, I went to Tax Policy Center, this is from their "about us" site...

Who We Are


The Tax Policy Center is a joint venture of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution.
The Center is made up of nationally recognized experts in tax, budget,
and social policy who have served at the highest levels of government.

Both the Urban institute and Brookings Institution claim
independence and nonpartisanship regarding policy, as you can see by
checking their sites. The experts have tesitfied before congress, and
have experts who have served under Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Papa
Bush. The Tax Policy Center's co-director has worked as an advisor to the GAO.
That said, they put together a side by side comparison of the two tax plans by the candidates, by topic, which you can look at in that link.
Now, Lets look at it in a more simple format that some may better understand, notice the 0s in McCain's plan. Does that sound fair?

 
Please check out their website for more Analysis if you are
interested. The Urban Institute also pointed out the perks and
complications to the two candidates Health plans. Here is Obama's....

Abstract


The Obama health care plan would greatly increase health insurance
coverage, substantially increase access to affordable and adequate
coverage for those with the highest health care needs, significantly
increase the affordability of care for the low-income, and reduce the
growth in health spending through a broad array of strategies. Despite
the overall positive assessment, a few concerns remain. The plan would
leave about 6 percent uninsured, necessitating the maintenance of the
current inefficient safety net system; the employer mandate may
engender significant political opposition; and the cost estimate may be
low depending upon how several plan details are resolved.



Overall Assessment


Our general assessment of the Obama plan is that it would

  • greatly increase health insurance coverage but would still leave about 6 percent of the non-elderly
    population uninsured, compared to 17 percent today.

  • substantially increase access to affordable and adequate coverage for those with the highest health
    care needs, including those with chronic illnesses, by spreading health care risk broadly;

  • significantly increase the affordability of care for low-income individuals; and

  • reduce the growth in health spending through a broad array of strategies.


In short, Obama’s proposal contains the basic components necessary for effectively addressing the most
important shortcomings of the current health care system, that is, limited coverage, inadequate risk pooling,
and high-cost growth.

(End of excerpt. The entire analysis or a summary of both candidates' plans are available in PDF format.)
And here is John McCain's messy plan..

Abstract


The McCain health care plan represents a philosophical advance over
many proposals, principally in its commitment to redistributing the
current tax exemption for employer-based health insurance. However, the
plan raises more concerns than it addresses. McCain’s proposal would
dramatically change how many obtain insurance, make coverage less
accessible for those with health problems, have a high budget cost, but
have little effect on the number uninsured
. These problems could be
addressed by providing a guaranteed source of adequate, affordable
coverage; phasing-out the tax exemption slowly; larger subsidies to the
low-income; spreading health risk broadly; and a significant commitment
to cost-containment.



Overall Assessment


The McCain health care plan represents a philosophical advance over many other health care proposals,
principally in its commitment to redistributing the current tax exemption for employer-based health
insurance. However, the plan raises more concerns than it addresses. The plan would


  • provide a refundable tax credit that is more valuable to low-income workers than the current tax
    exemption for employer-based insurance, though the credit is not adequate to make coverage
    affordable for many;

  • make insurance coverage less accessible and affordable for those with high health care needs;

  • increase coverage among the currently uninsured through the nongroup market but reduce the number
    already covered by employers, leaving about the same number of people uninsured;

  • have a high budget cost, at least in its early years.


In brief, McCain’s proposal would dramatically change how many Americans obtain health insurance
coverage, make coverage less accessible for those with health problems, have a high budget cost, but have
little effect on the number uninsured.

Read summaries of both candidates' proposals.
(End of excerpt. The entire analysis or a summary of both candidates' plans are available in PDF format.)
Now, enough with the tax and health care confusion. There it is, take it or leave it...

posted on Oct 29, 2008 4:12 AM ()

Comments:

Dear, Dear, James!! Why would I bother reading any political candidate's or political party's publications, brochures, or so-called information; even you should know that it is all 100% lies - for purposes of electioneering only. The first day in office changes everything, and negates anything and everything said or written during the campaign - such as (read my lips) - remember that one?????
comment by oldfatguy on Oct 31, 2008 11:59 AM ()
I am sorry to say it, but I do not care what the supposed purported plans are; I am old enough to remember what happened to me in 1993. "We are only raising taxes on the richest 1% of Americans" - which was me - a family of 4 earning under $25K per year. The $250K is already down to $150K - and where will it stop, how far down, to how many this time???????
comment by oldfatguy on Oct 29, 2008 2:15 PM ()
I know who I'd vote for...wish I could. My gramps has duel citenzenship, American and Canadian, he feels so strong about it again this vote as he did when Bush was in office that he is leaving his home in Vancouver to do it again....
comment by deborah on Oct 29, 2008 8:20 AM ()
For me it wouldnt be a problem who to vote for.....Pity I cant vote...
comment by itsjustme on Oct 29, 2008 4:52 AM ()

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