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as I have been saying exactly what you are saying for years! If I
could only readily pull up some of my many, many debates on this
subject.
Something I would like to add that I've not seen anyone discuss in
relation to climate change on Earth and that is the excessive amount of
volcano eruptions we've had these past few decades. The Co2 spewed out
of an erupting volcano VASTLY exceeds the output of human induced Co2.
If Co2 truly WERE the culprit behind the climate change, then it wold
be the cause of volcanic eruptions rather than human induced.
In addition to the outpouring of enormous amounts of Co2 from an
erupting volcano, there is the long term effects of the particle dust
in the atmosphere contributing to poor air quality.
Check out the platform in the Netherlands that is taking Co2 out of the
oil and gas they pull out of the ocean through an elaborate system,
then pumping the Co2 back into the bedrock beneath the ocean floor. I
blogged about that a couple of years ago and for me, that was proof
positive that the "Global Warming Theory" was all about profits. You
see this tremendous project is being funded by the TAX PAYERS for
corporations like BP Oil. All the so called "green" projects are
funded by the taxpayers and not the corporations. We're paying for it
to 'SAVE the Earth" from ourselves yet THEY are the ones PROFITING from
it - from our - we the people's - investment. Hello? Knock knock?
Anyone home?
Furthermore, and in addition to the high solar output cycle coming at
us currently, we are on a planet that is still evolving. The sun is
the source of all our power. Earth is spinning at 900 miles and hour
and orbiting at 19 miles a second. Earth ressides in a solar system
that resides in a galaxy. Our galaxy revolves around the galactic
central point. There's a LOT of shit going on in the universe that
impacts our itty bitty little solar system and our itty bitty little
planet. Simply put, we are not that powerful.
Did you know that the universe is expanding in every single direction
at 12 million miles a second! There are millions and billions of
galaxies in our ever expanding universe. Our galaxy, the Milky Way,
contains 100 billion stars. It's 100,000 light years from side to
side. It center is 60,000 light years thick. Where our solar system
sits in the milky way's outer arm, it is 3,000 light years wide and
spins at 40,000 miles an hour. Our galaxy is 30,000 years from the
galactic central point. It takes 200 million years for the Milky Way
to revolve around the Galactic Central Point.
An mankind has the audacity to think that we can control all that.
Laura
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discussing environmental issues in the last three weeks, including
solar versus nuclear energy, whether "thorium" reactors could be a
cheap safe kind of nuclear energy and whether global warming is mainly
caused by mankind, on various internet forums initiated by my message
"Guardian: Solar power from Sahara could provide Europe's electricity,
says EU" (which you can read at https://www.revolutionaryplatform.net/forum/index.php?topic=9154).
I've posted most of my contributions to the debates on the Environment
bulletin board of my Revolutionary Platform Network Forum (https://www.revolutionaryplatform.net/forum/index.php?board=106).
twice directed me to the "Skeptical Science" website, subtitled
"Examining the science of global warming skepticism". I have just
posted the following comments on the web page discussing the most
common argument used by those sceptical of global warming theory,
entitled "Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global
warming?" (https://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm).
has yet commented on the massive disparity in temperatures between the
two graphs shown at the top of this page during the post-war boom
(roughly the first three decades after the Second World War)
I have discovered that there are two completely different graphs of
average northern hemisphere temperatures on the internet! The graph
shown in "The Great Global Warming Swindle", displayed at the top of
this page, looks to be based on the same data as a March 2003 SPACE.COM
article entitled "Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling
Global Warming" (https://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html).
This page came top when I googled "total energy output from the sun
TSI" (without quotes). The graph on it uses data from an article by
Baliunas and Soon in the Astrophysical Journal. This seems to tally
with Fran's dates.
However, two Wikipedia pages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_temperature_record)
look to have similar data to the "Land-Ocean Temperature Anomaly" line
in the second graph on this page (except the Wikipedia pages show
5-year rather than 11-year averages). These show falling temperatures
in the 1940s but not in the subsequent decades.
It I My -- I There are massive vested interests, on both sides of the global warming debate, so fabrication of data is to be expected. Bearing -- For discussion of the environment, including global warming scepticism, go to https://www.revolutionaryplatform.net/forum/index.php?board=106
seems utterly ridiculous for predictions to have been made about a new
ice age in the 1970s (rather than earlier decades) if temperature had
not been falling as the latter graphs suggest. One set of graphs must
be based on fake data, and my current opinion that the latter ones are
fake appears to be supported by the NASA GISS data from individual
measuring statements linked to by Whata Fool on https://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.global-warming/browse_thread/thread/912fb81971711597.
have heard (I can't remember where) that the southern hemisphere has
not been warming in recent decades unlike the north. Does anybody have
any data about southern hemisphere temperatures? If not, why not?
particular take on the climate/weather, irrespective of whether CO2 is
really the main contributor to global warming, is that it is being
controlled by conspirators on the side of big business in the big
political struggles in the world (to some degree or other, and maybe
less so now than in the past). A BBC documentary "The Science of
Superstorms" largely about the USSR regime's measures to affect where
radioactive rainfall from Chernobyl came down and Chinese measures to
stop rainfall at the time of the Olympics opening ceremony indicate
that some level of control is possible. As weather forecasting has
improved, so has the ability to control it - and having high levels of
warming in some parts of the world and low levels in others suits the
divide-and-rule agenda of unethical forces in positions of power.
forgot to mention in the above comment that the whole argument that the
sun is not to blame is based on data/graphs that may be fabricated.
in mind that one set of data for cooling during the post-war boom
(despite higher production of carbon dioxide than earlier in the 20th
century when temperatures were rising) is incorrect and clearly
fabricated, the same may be true of recent solar radiance data.
Steve Wallis (Glasgow, Scotland)
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