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Politics & Legal > Equality is Such an Evil
 

Equality is Such an Evil

Someone has made the move from that other blog site to here and brought his hatred and intolerance with him. ("Edjamacator"? Who knows, it's certainly one of those from the extra chromosome crowd.)

He started out by writing, "Always, without fail, homosexuals claim they just want equal rights."

What's wrong with that?

Gays want the same opportunities and protections anyone else in society is entitled to: the same protections against discrimination in housing and employment, the same protections in rights afforded to partners in straight relationships, and the same civil rights afforded every other group in this country.

Let's take these things one at a time.

DISCRIMINATION
Gays are not afforded protections against discrimination in housing or employment. They can be terminated or evicted or denied housing simply for their orientation. This is no different than for discriminating against blacks by denying them housing and accommodation or lack of opportunity in the work place.

MARRIAGE
In order to get the same protections within their relationships as straights, they have to jump through myriad legal hurdles. Those legal hurdles aren't inviolable like they are in marriage. Their assets are subject to probate without regard for survivorship; wills and powers of attorney can be overruled because courts often find for blood relatives even when they've disowned gay relatives. Gays don't get benefits afforded straight couples when it comes to insurance, taxes, or pensions.

It's inadequate to say that they're able to get legal documents to cover all these details. Straight couples -- the laws of many states give common law straight couples the same rights as legally-married couples -- get them by default. There is no parity under the law for gays. None.

Nobody's rights will be violated by gay marriage. Straights will still be allowed to fall in love and marry (and divorce) each other. It won't do anything to diminish the sanctity of any relationship. It extends that sanctity and those rights to more people.

Our new "friend" (I'm very cautious around those I perceive to be bigots so forgive me for offering the benefit of the doubt) has a problem with schools teaching tolerance. He thinks it violates his rights. I disagree very strongly. As I wrote to him, nobody has a right to use beliefs to hurt others or infringe on their civil rights, to take their lives or their property. We don't allow people to kill apostates, we don't let parents stone their disobedient children as commanded in the Bible, and we don't allow parents to choose superstition over necessary medical care no matter how sincere the parents are that prayer will cure something that requires drugs.

You have religious rights and the freedom to believe what you want, but you don't have a right to violate anyone else's rights -- not to deny others housing or employment, not to forbid consenting adults the right to enter into legally binding contracts to protect their own interests and relationships, and sure as hell not to allow an environment in which others can be demonized or harassed or physically harmed because your views are uncivil and hostile to the civil rights of others.

Our laws don't afford you that much "freedom" wherein you get to infringe on the freedoms of others. Neither do your own religious laws. You might want to read them a little closer some time.

posted on Feb 20, 2008 12:26 PM ()

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The problem is religion. You see religions claim to know what their particular god wants, and if their dogma says homosexuality is evil, then there is nothing anyone can do to change their mind, because dogma has nothing to do with logic or reason, it has to do with fear of offending their god, and not going to heaven. Instead of reason, we have to try and stop the fear these poor people live with... that's why I'm in favour of euthanasia... put them out of their misery.
comment by clovis on Feb 21, 2008 11:24 PM ()
I understand now that there are differences between states? How weird, so in state 1 you can be prosecuted and in state 2 not? Should be federal these kind of things. (so easy here: 1 country 1 law)
comment by itsjustme on Feb 21, 2008 5:35 AM ()
What I just mean (and I know there are people who keep discriminating certain groups of people)is that here you can go to court when you dont get a job or house or insurance just on grounds of sexial orientation.
comment by itsjustme on Feb 21, 2008 3:42 AM ()
How comes that its still possible in your so-called land of opportunities that its possible to discriminate. In all kind of things discrimination here will be prosecuted. Nr. 1 in our constitution: no discrimination because of sex, politics, religion, race, sexual preference......
Every time I read about this topic here it makes me feel sad and mad.
Aren't we all "just" human beings.
comment by itsjustme on Feb 21, 2008 2:03 AM ()
I think that the battle gay/lesbian couples must go through, to receive the same rights as heterosexual people, is ridiculous. I have four people that I am very close to and I have seen their frustrations at what they have had to endure, simply because of their sexual preference. I also get very upset at some Christians who choose to limit tolerance on their part for those that are gay/lesbian. I am all for equal rights on this issue. I don't think the general public has a right to tell gay/lesbian couples what they can and cannot do. I hope I'm making sense here. This is a touchy subject for me, since I have very close friends that are gay/lesbian.
comment by hopefields on Feb 20, 2008 9:42 PM ()
You know how I feel about homosexual people, you know I am not a bigot but I do disagree with you on the most part about this.

I do not feel schools have the right to teach right or wrong.

If a parent wants to train their child to e a bigot that his their right.

Schools should not "promote" any type of sexuality.
comment by mmmhollywould on Feb 20, 2008 6:49 PM ()
Love the Jonathan Swift quote. Never came across it before. Thanks, looserobes!

Hatred is a sure sign of mental disorder. It is usually projected as a defense mechanism based on a deep personal fear. Most haters are neurotic as hell. Sometimes it is actually good to have them around, just to do reality checks on our own level of compassion.
comment by jondude on Feb 20, 2008 5:38 PM ()
I can just see it now GreatMartin admits he hates straight people as the title of a blog!!!
comment by greatmartin on Feb 20, 2008 5:16 PM ()
Guess I better not go to that blog--you know I hate straight people (you're the exception!) or I'll be called a few more names.
comment by greatmartin on Feb 20, 2008 5:15 PM ()
I love that reply from looserobes on the saying there.
comment by fredo on Feb 20, 2008 1:27 PM ()
"We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another." Jonathan Swift
comment by looserobes on Feb 20, 2008 1:06 PM ()
yeah, prolly more towards the latter...
comment by kristilyn3 on Feb 20, 2008 12:49 PM ()
Great post there,with full of information.
Thank you,for posting this.Fredo
comment by fredo on Feb 20, 2008 12:38 PM ()
interesting...
comment by kristilyn3 on Feb 20, 2008 12:37 PM ()

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