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Politics & Legal > Mass Murder in U S Nazi Style? Wtf? Get a Grip!
 

Mass Murder in U S Nazi Style? Wtf? Get a Grip!

My response to an Email forward (see below) about atrocities purported to be "planned" for the US masses by the controlling elite. Can we say Y2K paranoid, anyone?!!! -- Laura, whereabouts
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I would agree that something disastrous is about to happen within the
next 6-9 months, especially with the economy. I think martial law is a
possibility as one can see how currently martial law was declared in
the republic of Georgia. But, I do not think there is a plan for mass
murder. I think that line of thinking is comparable to the line of
thinking with the Y2K freaks who didn't have a full understanding of
how the internal systems work. I recall my father at the time buying
stock of non-perishable food, huge supplies of fuel, an enormous
generator, and a FULL boxcar load of tree logs (which I spent nearly
three days in July 2001 chainsawing into manageable sized logs then
splitting and stacking). It was ridiculous thinking to those of us who
understood the technology behind the Y2K stuff as most of it had to do
with tedious bank things.

In any case, I see this as similar. It's an issue that certainly
requires attention and preparation but I do not see cataclysmic foul
play on the levels describe in some of the entries and Email exchanges
in the forward.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe the only way they will get us into
full blown war with Iran is through some serious "false flag"
operations such as the ones mentioned here in a reply to a poster on
my blog:


There will be some kind of preposterous "false flag" operation that
will rally the people behind war with Iran. I suspect something insane
or a combination of insane events such as the imploding of the space
shuttle, a private plane nose-diving into the main natural gas line
that runs up through the Midwest and into Canada, the sinking of a US
warship by fascist elements within our own government in the Straights
of Hormutz in disguise as Iranian boats, and some other lunatic event
to be blamed on Iran and "terrorism".


I do think there are some sort of "camps" being constructed throughout
the states for nefarious uses that violate our civil liberties, etc.,
but it would be foolish to think that they plan to mass exterminate all
those over 44 years old. That's ridiculous. The global elite RELY on
the masses to bring them more wealth. Without the mass of the common
man, they have nobody to sell their products and services to. There
would be no more money making games for them to play and without all of
the common man, they would no longer have a purpose. They are NOTHING
without the mass of commoners. Merely for the selfish reasons of
accumulating more wealth and power, are reasons enough for the
controlling elite to WANT to protect the masses in the US - those with
purchasing power. They are not going to slaughter those in the US so
they can live in peace and utopia in South America - that is ludicrous!

There is nothing wrong with being prepared, being on top of the
information, etc., etc., but to claim that we have a camp to hold
millions of people? Come on! Let's come to our senses here. Do you
even realize the size a complex would have to be to hold a million
people? San Jose, CA is about 1 million people and the city
encompasses 175 square miles! Even if you cram everyone all together
and divide that by 5, you're still looking at 35 square miles. Most
villages and towns do not exceed 8 - 10 square miles. There is no
where in the US where a full 35 square miles is dedicated to a prison
camp! There is no where in the WORLD where 35 full square miles is
dedicated to a detention camp. The only place that would go unnoticed
is on MARS!

Come on, people, a little common sense here.

For me, first and foremost, is that if ANYTHING of ANY kind magnitude
were going to happen and it was going to impact me, in anyway, I would
be warned about it in my dreams. I did have a dream not too long ago
(which I posted here) about something big happening to the US but I
wasn't sure what it was (my thinking was either the economy or war with
Iran or some sort of like situations) but that PALES in comparison to
the hyperbole contained in slew of the Email exchanges that were
forwarded regarding the prison camps, and all out destruction of the
US. If there ever was misinformation to discredit Ron Paul and those
that follow, this is it!

I do think our economy is going to take a huge nose dive and for years
I have felt that we were headed for an inevitable depression but that
doesn't mean the end of life, or the end of US humanity, etc. As I
stated here previously, I WELCOME THE CHANGE! The change will do us
very well as we need to refocus and re-prioritize based on less
materialistic perspectives and more spiritual perspectives. We ARE
headed for HUGE changes but those changes will be GOOD for humanity -
not cataclysmic for the major US population.

Get a grip on reality already!

Change is GREAT and we are so very much in need of change but fear
mongering (and these forwarded Email exchanges are nothing less than
fear mongering) does nobody any good. Yes, prepare for the unexpected,
even store up on food and be sure that you are protected but don't
freak out about it and proclaim that the US will be no more!

Our military men and women are AMERICANS, first and foremost, they are
AMERICANS! Their oath is to PROTECT THE US CONSTITUTION FROM ALL
ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, and those men and women would NEVER, I
repeat, would NEVER mass round up fellow Americans and send them off to
be exterminated Nazi style! GIVE THEM MORE CREDIT THAN THAT! The
claim that they would exterminate their fellow US citizens is an utter
INSULT to their honor and service for our country and for YOUR
FREEDOM. They would REVOLT and risk their lives doing so to protect
you . You need not fear them. They will save you from any such doom!

Frank, get a grip!

Now, we do have to worry about losing our liberties and rights as we
have experienced over the years, most definitely, but there is a stark
difference between protecting one's liberties to the Y2K freakazoid
proclamation that the world will end, or at least life as we know it.

WTF?!?!?!? Fear is your enemy. Think positive. Positive thinking
brings positive results. Negative thinking manifests itself to produce
negative results.

We the PEOPLE are the power - We the PEOPLE will bring change - WE THE
PEOPLE WILL NEVER ALLOW ANY OF THIS RIDICULOUS NONSENSE TO TAKE PLACE
and our Soldiers who are made up of all of us PEOPLE will NEVER inflict
such atrocities on their fellow brothers and sisters - they would
REVOLT! Aside from that, there are FAR more of us - the PEOPLE - than
there are of all military and armed forces combined - we would KICK
THEIR ASSES! The residents Alabama and Kentucky alone would rise up
and annihilate any kind of risk to our American way of live.

Get a grip!

Laura
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This is
what I've gathered so far that I hope all of you will share with
everyone you know. We have to stay informed and ready for this.


Needless to
say, I hope we're wrong. I hope that after this date passes that we
can all breathe a sigh of relief and feel the relatively minor
embarrassment of being proven wrong by time. But this is too much
evidence to ignore and it's time we snap out of our state of denial.


We are not
going to experience a gradual reduction of our lifestyle. If you take
the time to read this information, you will see that we MIGHT be facing
the severe and very real threat of all-out martial law.


The
merciful thing is that our fears will be confirmed or denied as soon as
the next two months but as late as earlier next year. Call me a
doomsdayer. The only comfort I find right now is knowing this torment
will soon be over and we'll either be much happier or we'll be too dead
to worry about it anymore.



June 1, 2008: This warning of the implosion by the end of the summer (technically September 22, right?) from James Turk of Photobucket

Date: Aug 8, 2008 4:31 PM
----- Original Message -----
From: M
To: don.
s
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: from Don Stott

Client of mine says that in the West Chester, Ohio police parking lot,
there are 40 to 50 new, black, unmarked, Chevy Suburbans, probably
armored, with uniforms hanging in the windows. When he and his buddy
went to look, you can see them from the road, a cop came out and told
them to leave.
you decide


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----- Original Message -----
From: Darren
To: don.
s
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: 40 DAY WARNING : Sep 2008 Market Crash? PREPARE NOW...

If the multiple sources of this information is accurate you now have
exactly roughly 40 days to get food stores, survival stores and get
your house in order in all forms... It should be noted that this
information statistically will only circulate to a small number of
individuals - and should not be considered an attempt to cause the
event as a 'self-fulfilling prophecy

1. Leo Zagami references September 2008 Stock Market Crash...

A former Grandmaster of the European P2 Masonic Illuminati Lodge (who
repented and now works against the order), and destined to inherit a
high position in the secretive order - Leo Zagami gives a interview on
Youtube to the ForeRunner777... It is unknown at this time where he is getting his information... Leo Zagami is hard to hear, the ForeRunner overdrives the mic, so the audio was cleaned up with a fresh MP3:
https://www. mediafire. com/?sharekey=6074186bc692943a1686155677bb2685b1b18f8c189f0d69

The original file can be found here:
https://www. youtube. com/watch?v=jy7urlWLP84&feature=related

2. LAPD Officer receives warning of Mid September 2008 Market Crash, followed by Feb 2009 Failure
of US government from a relative who is high level US Military...
Martial Law to be initiated at appropriate time as cities run out of
food, and Halliburton Concentration camps are prepared... It cannot be
stressed enough that it is VERY WISE to simply treat this warning as a
coming reality and prepare accordingly. Do recall that 'just in time
inventories' faced against a 'food run' would clean shelves off of food
in the major cities in a matter of hours. People are not stupid
everybody knows the system is tottering, but there is always a large
portion of the population that will always 'wait for the herd to bolt'
before taking action. When the herd bolts its too late. You have to
learn to psychologically treat this as a reality now, and prepare.
A large portion of the population waits for the media to tell them to
panic when the media 'helps it along' by reporting that shelves are
being cleaned out 1 week after the coming 'black Monday or black Tuesday' or whatever it becomes... Sept 15th is a Monday

Here is the posting take what you will of it

"Hi all, This might be the last thing I ever post on here but I need to
warn you all. I have been with LAPD for a while and have learned alot
of things. One of them is to be a little more independent. Don't put
100 % faith in other humans to take care of you. And yes that means the
government 2. Well because things have gotten so bad in LA (Officers
being shot at up 39 % in 2007) I decided to move to Idaho. And I love
it by the way. Anyway what I'm going to say might shock you or even
scare you, but please understand that fear does nothing but makes
things worse kinda like stress. So instead of worrying do something to
fix it. Remember there's no problems only solutions. This morning I got
a call from my uncle who is very high up in the military and he told me
to leave the city now. I hardly ever talk to him so he was unaware that
I had already left LA. But he seemed very concerned but refused to tell
me why. After about 20 minutes he told me the very basics. The first
thing he said was to buy as much can food and water as possible. The
second was to stock up on ammo. I have already stacked up on ammo
because I knew it would become very expensive later and in LA there was
a 1 year wait for .223 bullets for my AR15. But I was still very
confused as to why he's calling out of the blue and telling me these
things. Well what he said next is something the American people aren't
suppose to know. He told me that there is an actual plan as to when the
economy will completely crash. As of right now he said it will happen
in the middle of Sept of this year. Also he said that our Government will crash in Feb of 2009.
He said that Mexico and Canada will merge with us and that a new dollar
called the Amero is going to replace the dollar. But the most scary
thing is what he told me he's been doing for the past couple of years.
He's been overseeing the construction of Prison Camps being built all
through out America. He said a Private company called Haliburton is
building them. He told me that 1 camp in Alaska can hold 2 million
people and there's almost 1000 camps in the USA. ( not including the
ones underground) He also said that these will be used when they
declare Martial Law. There's some more things but I promised him I
would never repeat them. But just knowing that this could even be
possible makes me say to myself " why not buy an extra 20 or 30 bucks
of food I can store" each time I go shopping. I had about 2 weeks worth
because in California you never know when that next big earthquake can
hit not to mention the last year and a half we have been training on
how to handle food riots in LA.
( By the way the first step in the LAPD process is to stand back and observe) ..
Bless !!!"

This posting was back in March of 2008, and originally was found here :
https://www. city-data. com/forum/politics-other-controversies/287794-please-read-now-sept-2008-economic. html

Financial Analysts point to same thing...
https://georgeamarcelo. wordpress. com/2008/06/04/us-economy-might-crash-in-september-2008/

Market Oracle using market fundamentals shows strong down trending:
https://marketoracle. co. uk/Article5442. html

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----- Original Message -----
From: L
To: Don
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Something to Consider and Investigate for Yourself

Compelling observations; it wouldn't hurt to have some junk coin silver bullion around.

I don't know whether you have heard of George Green, but he is a former
investment banker (Registered Financial Principal with the N.A.S.D.)
and a Broker/Dealer, Securities Underwriter, Real Estate Developer,
Insurance Broker and Publisher, who was invited to become a member of
the 'Power Elite'. However, faced with a moral and ethical dilemma, he
turned his back on his former associates and chose to walk an entirely
different path in which he has tried to warn the world of the Power
Elite's plans for the future.

Anyway, my attention was drawn to a recorded telephone conversation, on
July 16th 2008, between George Green and an as yet unidentified web
interviewer from the 'Conscious News Network', at: https://www. consciousmedianetwork. com/news. htm If you cannot access it there, it can also be found at:

https://video. google. com/videoplay?docid=7618947388652774139&q=George+Green+on+the+Economy&ei=jimJSIKTCIamrwLRqYW-Aw

Although it is described as a 'video', as the content is audio only,
the streaming is smooth and seam-free. However, knowing how busy you
are (and just how little time there is left for the world), I have
extracted the main points emphasized by George Green, which I have
listed, without comment, as an Appendix to this email.
In the event that you require clarification, having listened to this recording a half dozen times, I am familiar with all the 'nuances' and would be happy to oblige.

The bottom line is that Bush is now expected to introduce Martial Law on or before 30th September 2008

- - since this date marks the end of the Fiscal Year, when revelations
about the true state of the economy - and the questionable practices of
the Federal Reserve - are likely to result in riots in the streets and
stockbrokers, bankers and financiers throwing themselves off the roofs
of their buildings! It is not certain what pretext Bush proposes to use
to 'justify' the imposition of Martial Law, but keep an eye on any War Games scheduled to take place in September 2008.
My own money is on a Fort Detrick created Flu Pandemic spread primarily
by compulsory vaccination but, judging from the deliberate complexity
and diversity of 9/11, we must be prepared for multiple false flag
events to throw state government and the citizenry off balance.


1 At the beginning of July, the Bank of International Settlements in
Switzerland , which is owned by the thirteen [Illuminati] Banking
Families under Rothschild, stated that it wanted to audit the US
Federal Reserve. Bush reluctantly had to agree to this, but with the
proviso that the audit would not be conducted until he has left office.
However, when the truth inevitably leaks out on 30th September 2008, clearly the Bank of International Settlements will no longer be prepared to accept the US Dollar.


2 With the realization that the Federal Reserve has been pumping two
billion US Dollars a day into the economy in a forlorn effort to try to
keep the US afloat, the US is now construed as 'the poor kid on the
block', the 'bankrupt of the world' and nobody is prepared to lend them
anything. Foreign governments have said 'We will no longer take your
bonds'.


3 This situation has a worldwide repercussion: for example China, which
is the biggest US creditor, has told US importers that they may not pay
more then 20% of the total cost of their goods in US Dollars

4 Also since the beginning of July, Germany has announced that it will
no longer accept Euros from eight of their fellow EU members, the two
countries with which they are most concerned being Italy and Spain

5 The Real Estate market is expected to go down by an additional 50% from its value on 16th August.
Because of the collapse of the Real Estate market, which is expected to
lead to at least a further two million foreclosures within the next 12
months, US Banks are no longer prepared to trust each other, so
inter-bank lending has virtually ceased

6 This has had a knock-on effect on would-be house purchasers.
like the old days, anyone who now wants to get a mortgage has to put
20% down and to satisfy the lender that their job is secure

7 You may have seen Bush go on television to tell everyone not to worry as the US Government-sponsored Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) will guarantee the safety of their bank deposits.
However, the truth is that the FDIC can barely raise 30 cents on the
dollar to cover its potential liabilities; and Bank of America and
Wells Fargo are in a similar situation

8 Banks have already started telling their depositors that they cannot withdraw their own cash

9 It is universally accepted internationally that the US Dollar is going to collapse by the end of September 2008.
Some foreign banks have already started to refuse to
take US deposits and, since the Patriot Act, if you do manage to send
money to a foreign bank, they are required to report the fact to the
USG, who will make you prove how you obtained it and if you cannot do
so, they will automatically label you a 'terrorist' or a 'drug dealer'
and confiscate it

10 The Bank of South America is trying to organize its own currency for
use within the South American continent when the US Dollar finally
crashes, based on an initial provision of eight billion dollars

11 As at July 1st, the Japanese stock market was down 12%, the
Australian stock market was down 18%, the German stock market was down
22%, the Indian st ck market was down 36%; and China's Shanghai
Exchange was down 50%

12 Within the next year, the DOW is expected to fall to between 7500 and 8000

13 Everyone is now desperately trying to get liquid; and Oil, Gold and
Drugs have become the universally accepted world currencies

14 The only sensible advice is either to change dollars into other
currencies, or buy gold and silver (while you still can, because the US
is likely to make it illegal to own gold); and stock up on
canned food, the price of which is going to go through the roof.
Already the major canners have reduced the size of cans by 20% to preserve stock whilst also maximizing their profits

15 Already 80% of the cost of an apple in the rmarkets is energy costs;
and this proportion is likely to rise We have already started to see
the situation where growers, producers and importers have stopped
supplying many basic foodstuffs because the price of oil has meant that
the cost of getting it to market is more than they can hope to sell it
foray.
The food shortages that have resulted are likely to become even more
acute because the USG is talking of introducing price controls Who will
be prepared to continue to supply the market when they are sustaining
increasing losses?

16 The falling value of the dollar has created artificial shortages
because other countries can now buy US goods cheaper than they can
produce them themselves.


17 Inflation is expected to rise by 35 - 40% by the end of this year in real terms. Gasoline 5 Dollars a Gallon everywhere.


18 Following the collapse of the US Dollar, the Euro is also expected to collapse.
In fact, Russia is already negotiating with Germany about a new currency

19 The Iranian Oil Bourse was set up to trade oil internationally in Euros (see: https://www. energybulletin. net/node/12125 ) but, just when the bourse was ready to go live, the
submarine cables were conveniently cut

20 You can forget about the NAU's Amero.
The Amero is off the table - the Canadian Prime Minister said 'We're
not going to support a bankrupt country'; and Mexico is so corrupt that
nobody knows where they're coming from

21 In the future, South America will be one of the safest areas on the
planet. They have ample commodities and very little debt. Not
everywhere is ideal (in some countries you would need to live in a
defended compound).
Ecuador is close to becoming self sufficient in food terms

22 Kissinger and the population reduction crew are trying to get WW3
started before September 30th (end of the US Fiscal Year), then Bush
can suspend everything. Israel and the US are working out the details
to attack Iran to start WW3.
The main reason for the use of Depleted Uranium munitions in Iraq is 'to cull the herd'

23 Of the US population of 300 million, half are over 50 and most of
the kids can't read or write. Sport and entertainment are what has been
used to keep everyone going. When (rather than if) Bush calls a
National Emergency, if you are over the age of 44 only if you have a
use which 'they' want will 'they' be prepared to keep you alive.
Moreover, what law will we have which says that we even own our own homes?

24 Everybody must downsize into small self-contained and (as far as
possible) self-sufficient communities, People will have to forget their
'wants' and to concentrate solely on what they actually need to survive

24 In short, we are marching towards our self- imprisonment. I'm ready to get out of harm's way.
I know high ups who will tell me when it's time to leave

Also watch this earlier interview of George Green:
https://video. google. com/videoplay?docid=-7653086503087010253&hl=en

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----- Original Message -----
From: don.
s
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:15 PM

Subject: ALERT: Several serious warnings in my
mail...PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND AS TO
THE WEIGHT THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN


There have been an accumulation of disturbing developments that need to
be tied together and a conclusion reached as to what action you must
take to protect yourself and your family.
Recently Ron Paul warned of "chaos about to be unleashed" on economic
and political system by globalist intervention and world empire
href="https://www">https://www. msplinks. com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LmdyYW5pdGViYXlwdC5jb20vZGV0YWlsLzg5MDI3Lmh0bWw=">https://www.
granitebaypt. com/detail/89027.
html..

Aaron Russo reported a conversation with Nick Rockefeller where
Rockefeller admitted that the elite's goal was to microchip our
population.
https://www. jonesreport. com/articles/210207_rockefeller_friendship. html

Now there are warnings that we are going to face a major crisis before
the end of September. The first item is a radio interview. LISTEN TO
IT. Not just once but two or three times. Understand what Mr Green is
saying. Re-read Ron Paul's warning.
And determine for your self just how serious this is
I believe it is serious!

Don S
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-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Sallie" <>

We've been getting warnings about flu. On the website, they state "It will happen again.
" https://www. ohiopandemicflu. gov/
It looks like they are setting us up for something

Lori has an article about it on her website, which I will be sending out

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Posted by: "stu8340"
Fri Aug 8, 2008 7:52 am (PDT)

The "DOWNFALL" of America will be from within........
people are becoming desperate from both sides... We have those who are
speeding up this process for fear the informed will organized to
counter their efforts and become the "The American Resistance" as they
did in Europe against Hitler.. Then we have those who are willing to
walk into your local Subway Sandwich Shop at closing time with shot
guns and terrorize those who are trying to make a living and walk out
with a few hundred bucks....... We know and have seen that there is
something being added to jet fuel that they're laying down in our skies
across this nation... In the meantime the numbers of sick are growing
at an explosive rate and the pharmaceuticals are laughing all the way
to the bank and positioning themselves by "law" to be the only source
for today's health care......

I saw the Larry Flint documentary, "not the movie", last nite on
IFC....... This man has fought for the our 1st Amendment Rights his
entire life on his dime and time..... despite what some may think of
his business, his message was the big picture of our Constitution and
the Bill of Rights.... He is saying what we've been saying for the last
several years, except he has been at it for decades.... there was a
very good portion of this film dedicated to today's Main Stream Media
and how it's been taken over by corporate interests and turned away
from truth telling to the American people to an Entertainment
Propaganda Service for the government and the corporations whom this
government represents...
He was outraged over the Hollywood production by our military of the
Jessica Lynch rescue which turned out to be a false, staged rescue....

On the grand chess board the pieces are in place for the last move of "Checkmate", they have their bases covered....

:





Frank


"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --Albert Einstein

posted on Aug 9, 2008 2:04 PM ()

Comments:

When I need to feed my urge for paranoia I don't mess around with "second coming" scenarios or American government conspiracies (the higher up in the government you look the less competence you'll find. Those dopes can't tie their own shoe laces let alone form a decent conspiracry.) I prefer to dwell on the realistic threats like Islamic terrorists with access to nuclear weapons. Or perhaps a collapse of the dollar due to government incompetence and corruption.
In the end, however, we won't need a conspiracy to bring starvation and violent chaos to America. The gradual process of decline is well along in its evolution. The encroachment of Socialism, government approved and funded class antagonism, failure to defend our national sovereignty, the undermining of education with political indoctrination are only a few from the top of the list of our present social disfunctions.
Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride. Leave the driving to "us".
comment by think141 on Aug 13, 2008 7:36 AM ()
That's a good point about U.S. soldiers: They are Americans too and aren't about to round up ordinary people for imprisonment. Blackwater employees, on the other hand... But I think those scary-looking camps are for disaster use, like for parking hundreds of nice toxic trailers and other things.
comment by drmaus on Aug 10, 2008 1:20 AM ()

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